Replying To old yellar: "https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/gaelic-football/cahair-okane-slaughtneils-adoption-of-the-less-is-loughmore-approach-paying-dividends-GWJWH5WM65GWNFRVQE72SX4A2I/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGsnktleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHRH-1GF6alDAZWT5ylBK5w0YSGIAf0r0AjC37bQQjgeVHrPzLph4RdI-WA_aem_nsPw24_j6kuKtsfowixzcQ
V interesting article on the dual nature of clubs and how 2 successful clubs have managed it. Being a fully dual club is probably easier manage than some situations we have here presently. Being caught between several stools and managers can be a problem. A few things I d like to add - 1.. Clear goals - I wouldn't fuss about our clubs progression in Leinster. We need to look within first and see what is going to develop our club standards and our county. A clubs progression in Leinster is a bonus but not a priority in my eyes. 2. Hurlers - virtually all hurlers/hurling clubs are dual. Not the same for all football clubs. While lads say the wheels came off for st Mullins this year, they won 3 championships back to back and we're not far off in the relegation final. So getting a balance of what works for the players is important. While it looks like a short hurling season (and it can be), the overall picture for some of these lads is a long year - a lot playing county hurling, then both codes at club. And this has a knock on effect on football leagues too - eg take MLR - possibly 10+ on senior hurling panel and more on u20s. So hard be full strength when these lads are in with county. Same happens with bolger cup and kk league - clubs down some lads. 3. Players - someone mentioned about chatting players and what they want. A very key question! While we all want to raise standards and have Gaa front and centre all year round, that's not always what the players want. The idea of what a gaa club is has changed in my eyes in recent times. For a lot of new players/parents we are just another club/sport. Years ago the Gaa club was the centre of everything local. Now maybe not so much. Players now maybe value different things and have different ideas. That's the world we re in! The Gaa has to be about all and not the small % at every level.
So no easy answers for Carlow! We have a lot of positives in our county and a lot to be proud of : we truly are a dual county and with our numbers it is hard to be "successful" in either. The reality around numbers and finances are what they are and we have to be realistic. Enjoy the good days and keep positive - we always seem to look at the glass half full."
This is a cop out.Everything is fine and dandy.? It is in your head only. That's not how the GAA works. Why borhwr with competitive games at all.Lets have exhibition games during the summer instead. Everything will be positive then hooray
Replying To Overthebar53: "This is a cop out.Everything is fine and dandy.? It is in your head only. That's not how the GAA works. Why borhwr with competitive games at all.Lets have exhibition games during the summer instead. Everything will be positive then hooray"
Where did I say all was dandy? I said you have to face reality every now and again. We can all dream. And yeah, I d be v sick of the negativity around everything in the Gaa here in the county. A lot of whingers - we whinge about most things here, always looking for the negativity. Rem the latest - the no cash turnstiles and how the crowds would be down and the games would be boycotted etc - all by people who never go to a game!! I would be positive about the Gaa - in a bigger picture way. Its more than results for me I suppose. I m involved in club/county etc. but I m also a realist. Money probably the biggest driving factor now at intercounty where things are similar. We don't have much! Most counties would be running (and some are running) at losses were it now for large sponsors etc. It just seems to be a race to spend money! Same in our clubs. Whinge about the standards at underage etc but spend 10, 15, 20k etc on our adult set ups! Aside from money you have to work with the numbers of players and where they're at - everyone wants a piece of them. Another reality. I could go on but I can't post some of it on here! So while we might disagree on some stuff and that's fine, What do we actually think progress or achievement looks like for us in the county? I think that's a good starting point.
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