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Replying To Tiger1:  "Agree 100%Roscommon needed a hand today."
I don't know where to start that Roscommon performance against galway was absolutely terrible we been complete garbage since that Meath game in the league except against cork and London.

I love the older lads and grew up watching them and their my generations hero's but some of them are just too flat had no energy or initiative compared to Ben o carroll and Colm neary the only young lad with some issues was Conor carroll with kick outs and lack of confidence even then he's young and not entirely at fault for that

you have Conor cox and donie smith coming of the bench but no offence to them but we need younger players Adam McDermott was class for Roscommon un20s in 21 and castlerea in 23 wasn't given a chance and now's he playing soccer Shane maginley from strokestown excellent last year with the un20s people voted his goal against Tyrone goal of the year so you would imagine he would of gotten at least one chance this year but no

I know the minors are doing excellent with a mayo management team but overall this outside management crap just isn't working we had a mayo galway and Kildare men in charge and we usually win division 2 or Connacht and we can't even do that anymore and that's all we have to show are we even gonna get out of a group this year

Compare that to Donegal with Jimmy or Galway with Joyce or even in Roscommon the successful clubs and un20 teams have Roscommon men in charge the next Roscommon senior manager has to be a Roscommon man and the senior team needs a soft reboot or at least gain their confidence back

Galway for sam blah blah yeah they were class today but their are second biggest rivals we should of been way more up for that we were completely outclassed and they didn't even have the two main men for the entire game just seeing the Roscommon fans leaving early was sad compared to 2016-2019 we're they were even battles

I see people saying the gap between 1 and 2 but look at cork yesterday and monghan today that's absolutely zero excuse for todays performance

ten hag winning the fa cup saved man united anoim might do the same with Europa but i dont think Roscommon can save their season and get to a quarter like last year in a similar way.

Gavlar (Roscommon) - Posts: 4 - 20/04/2025 21:53:18    2603236

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Expected a lot more from Roscommon a full blooded challenge in the faces of Galway giving no time to settle etc

Instead were allowed to claim so many restarts unchallenged and defensively Roscommon are all over the place. Trying to do one on one stuff leaving individual defenders exposed to two or three Galway players running at them. Roscommon U20s and U17s I've seen in action didn't defend in that manner so a big question why the Seniors did today? It will be Davy Burke final year as 3 years in you can't be that poorly set up and time to try someone else anyone local? Don Connellan has done well in club football and college level a possible option?

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 382 - 20/04/2025 22:08:04    2603239

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I couldn't see past Galway winning today and had it marked down as a 5 point win at least and might have been that if Roscommon applied themselves better. I'm sure it's a same for any team supporters if they lose to a hot favorite you still want to see your team carried out on their shield which never got close to happening today.

Rather dull non event of match in truth I don't think the new rules has helped Roscommon nor have the recent tweaks. Probably need to use the group stage for new or newish players as the whole set up have become very stale

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3586 - 20/04/2025 22:39:59    2603251

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Hard luck, Roscommon. You just didn't get going today and that sometimes happens. It's early days and I'm sure the players will want to make amends. No all-Irelans medals handed out in April so still a lot to play for.

Really (Galway) - Posts: 629 - 21/04/2025 00:42:34    2603274

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I know the minors are doing excellent with a mayo management team
Gavlar (Roscommon)

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A Mayo native manager who's now a Roscommon Gaels club member for a few years and led his club to Div 1 U20 title before this years minor gig.

The coaches on his management team are from Kilmore, Pádraig Pearses and Strokestown.

On the seniotd. Aren't Roscommon men but Anthony Cunningham, Kevin McStay weren't seen as outside managers given they live in this county and well tuned in to what is happening in the club and underage scene with that in mind Burke is our first true outside manager since Evans 2013 to 2015.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4017 - 21/04/2025 01:38:39    2603278

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Replying To Gavlar:  "I don't know where to start that Roscommon performance against galway was absolutely terrible we been complete garbage since that Meath game in the league except against cork and London.

I love the older lads and grew up watching them and their my generations hero's but some of them are just too flat had no energy or initiative compared to Ben o carroll and Colm neary the only young lad with some issues was Conor carroll with kick outs and lack of confidence even then he's young and not entirely at fault for that

you have Conor cox and donie smith coming of the bench but no offence to them but we need younger players Adam McDermott was class for Roscommon un20s in 21 and castlerea in 23 wasn't given a chance and now's he playing soccer Shane maginley from strokestown excellent last year with the un20s people voted his goal against Tyrone goal of the year so you would imagine he would of gotten at least one chance this year but no

I know the minors are doing excellent with a mayo management team but overall this outside management crap just isn't working we had a mayo galway and Kildare men in charge and we usually win division 2 or Connacht and we can't even do that anymore and that's all we have to show are we even gonna get out of a group this year

Compare that to Donegal with Jimmy or Galway with Joyce or even in Roscommon the successful clubs and un20 teams have Roscommon men in charge the next Roscommon senior manager has to be a Roscommon man and the senior team needs a soft reboot or at least gain their confidence back

Galway for sam blah blah yeah they were class today but their are second biggest rivals we should of been way more up for that we were completely outclassed and they didn't even have the two main men for the entire game just seeing the Roscommon fans leaving early was sad compared to 2016-2019 we're they were even battles

I see people saying the gap between 1 and 2 but look at cork yesterday and monghan today that's absolutely zero excuse for todays performance

ten hag winning the fa cup saved man united anoim might do the same with Europa but i dont think Roscommon can save their season and get to a quarter like last year in a similar way."
What Roscommon manager would you recommend for the job? Any ideas for coaches and selectors?

imformed (Roscommon) - Posts: 194 - 21/04/2025 08:33:56    2603284

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Good God we were shocking yesterday.
I'd love to think it was just one of those days where everything goes right for 1 team and wrong for the other.

But it's been happening in League games too.

Can management and/or players get their danders up and try to salvage something from the wreckage or is it too late.?

Wouldn't have much confidence going into an AI series now.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2252 - 21/04/2025 11:05:04    2603315

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Replying To imformed:  "What Roscommon manager would you recommend for the job? Any ideas for coaches and selectors?"
I'd like to see Fergal O'Donnell back in the role. He is meticulous in his attention to detail and won the All Ireland Minor title in 2006 and the Connacht senior title in 2010 against the head. If not him, I would favour another local candidate. Nearly all successful gaa managers have been in charge of their native county. Cody in Kilkenny, O'Dwyer in Kerry, Boylan in Meath, Gavin in Dublin. Davy Burke seems like a nice guy and he's very enthusiastic but... Maybe the players aren't good enough either. The suspicion is though that Burke is not getting the best out of the players at his disposal. Yesterday in Salthill was awful. Roscommon never got to the pace of the game at all. We were cleaned out at midfield and that set up the platform for Galway. I understand that Galway in training worked hard for the last fortnight on developing their fielding and midfield play and that certainly paid off for them.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2368 - 21/04/2025 11:08:21    2603318

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I'm not sure who would fit the bill but they need to get someone who can coach them defensively and how to tackle. This has been a recurring problem for ten years now and it's still not addressed. Is it a case of the County board stepping in and ensuring that no matter who the manager is, there is a proper defensive coach in the set up and the skill of tackling is being coached? What's the point of all the effort and producing at underage if you are not going to try and give the senior team the tools to be competing at QF stage and hopefully go one step further and make a semi.

Did we win any dirty ball yesterday? Sometimes a team just has better fielders but you need to be winning breaking ball. That seems to be down to a lack of intensity, aggression and being off the pace. Getting used to the new rules in Div 2 didn't help. It's way off Div 1 standard. At the same time you see Cork putting in a performance like that against Kerry.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 57 - 21/04/2025 11:46:49    2603327

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Replying To endgame:  "I'd like to see Fergal O'Donnell back in the role. He is meticulous in his attention to detail and won the All Ireland Minor title in 2006 and the Connacht senior title in 2010 against the head. If not him, I would favour another local candidate. Nearly all successful gaa managers have been in charge of their native county. Cody in Kilkenny, O'Dwyer in Kerry, Boylan in Meath, Gavin in Dublin. Davy Burke seems like a nice guy and he's very enthusiastic but... Maybe the players aren't good enough either. The suspicion is though that Burke is not getting the best out of the players at his disposal. Yesterday in Salthill was awful. Roscommon never got to the pace of the game at all. We were cleaned out at midfield and that set up the platform for Galway. I understand that Galway in training worked hard for the last fortnight on developing their fielding and midfield play and that certainly paid off for them."
Galway are operating at a higher level and you can tell there is only one thing on their mind for this year. Even with us playing well I think we wouldn't have beaten them but we should have been able to be competitive, which we weren't at any stage on Sunday. They had their homework done to a tee and we seemed to hope that we'll get a result playing the same ol way we did all league. We look like such a static team the way we set up, movement is poor in and out of posession. We don't defend well but our attacking play is equally as laboured. Roscommon seem to have to work so much harder to get scores while the opposition at our level or better get them much easier. I don't know what the solution is but between our poor defending and poor transition attacking play a lot of our issues are in that 8 man area between the half back and half forward line. If there is any consolation from that defeat it should be a wake up call to the standard that's needed if you want to compete in the round robin stage.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 57 - 22/04/2025 10:11:21    2603572

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Very disappointing game Sunday on reflection. So poor defensively which I worried about from the league. We are way off the pace and a half decent forward line show how exposed we are ( never mind a good set of forwards like Galway).

So many easy kickouts won for Galway. Getting shots off without any pressure being put on the shooter. It seems a case of the defenders worrying about their own man and not concerned about a defensive shape or system. #

It will be a very short All Ireland series for us this year I am afraid. Look at how Cork took the game the Kerry on Sunday with aggression and no fear. We looked beaten by Galway after 5 minutes.

Rossfan93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 22/04/2025 10:52:32    2603585

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "Galway are operating at a higher level and you can tell there is only one thing on their mind for this year. Even with us playing well I think we wouldn't have beaten them but we should have been able to be competitive, which we weren't at any stage on Sunday. They had their homework done to a tee and we seemed to hope that we'll get a result playing the same ol way we did all league. We look like such a static team the way we set up, movement is poor in and out of posession. We don't defend well but our attacking play is equally as laboured. Roscommon seem to have to work so much harder to get scores while the opposition at our level or better get them much easier. I don't know what the solution is but between our poor defending and poor transition attacking play a lot of our issues are in that 8 man area between the half back and half forward line. If there is any consolation from that defeat it should be a wake up call to the standard that's needed if you want to compete in the round robin stage."
Can we get up to that level in 3-4 weeks?
Can we beat 1 of the 4th seeds -probably Down, Cavan, Cork and Meath?
Or 1 of the 2nd seeds -Clare, Louth, Armagh, Mayo?
Can we win a last 12 game?

No, maybe, possibly, no.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2252 - 22/04/2025 10:56:06    2603587

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Replying To Rossfan93:  "Very disappointing game Sunday on reflection. So poor defensively which I worried about from the league. We are way off the pace and a half decent forward line show how exposed we are ( never mind a good set of forwards like Galway).

So many easy kickouts won for Galway. Getting shots off without any pressure being put on the shooter. It seems a case of the defenders worrying about their own man and not concerned about a defensive shape or system. #

It will be a very short All Ireland series for us this year I am afraid. Look at how Cork took the game the Kerry on Sunday with aggression and no fear. We looked beaten by Galway after 5 minutes."
The Roscommon herald makes for grim reading about last Sunday's performance. It rightly asks where are Roscommon going under Davy Burke and also rightly questions the players out on the pitch in Salthill. Burke is quoted as saying that a week's break will make a big difference to a tired Roscommon team. I can't see that at all. Anything critical is censored on this website so I'll be careful what I say.. The Manager seems to be out of touch with how poorly his team are playing at present. I think there's a case for a new Interim Roscommon Manager being brought in for the All Ireland series. Otherwise it'll just be more of the same excuses, media interviews and a very short Summer for the primrose and blue.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2368 - 22/04/2025 11:26:30    2603597

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "Galway are operating at a higher level and you can tell there is only one thing on their mind for this year. Even with us playing well I think we wouldn't have beaten them but we should have been able to be competitive, which we weren't at any stage on Sunday. They had their homework done to a tee and we seemed to hope that we'll get a result playing the same ol way we did all league. We look like such a static team the way we set up, movement is poor in and out of posession. We don't defend well but our attacking play is equally as laboured. Roscommon seem to have to work so much harder to get scores while the opposition at our level or better get them much easier. I don't know what the solution is but between our poor defending and poor transition attacking play a lot of our issues are in that 8 man area between the half back and half forward line. If there is any consolation from that defeat it should be a wake up call to the standard that's needed if you want to compete in the round robin stage."
No it will not be a wake up call because we have been playing the same way all year there has been no attempt made to change our approach /style despite it being so obvious we were miles off the pace despite getting the win I was shocked walking out of the Louth match earlier n the league as to how poor we were - So we will continue to play this type of
Game until we exit the championship at which point I expect A change in mgt .
The one positive for Roscommon is that despite ourselves we somehow managed to get back into
Division 1 that coupled with decent underage teams the last few years it Might be seen as a relatively good opportunity for managers /coaches to come
On board but it feels like
Another wasted summer from where I'm standing at the moment .

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 643 - 22/04/2025 12:00:09    2603607

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Can we get up to that level in 3-4 weeks?
Can we beat 1 of the 4th seeds -probably Down, Cavan, Cork and Meath?
Or 1 of the 2nd seeds -Clare, Louth, Armagh, Mayo?
Can we win a last 12 game?

No, maybe, possibly, no."
That is the million dollar question! You'd wonder if you can't raise it for your neighbours in a Connacht semi final when having not won a provincial in 6 years can you suddenly switch it on in a months time. Imagine this prospect, Kerry, Armagh ourselves and Meath... I wouldn't feel confident winning any game in that hypothetical group. We will face a provincial winner in our first game and I really hope there is a good performance in us.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 57 - 22/04/2025 12:08:27    2603608

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The changing of coaches every year cant help either. Id hope players go back to clubs for a couple of weeks and clear heads and management sit down and try save this season.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1234 - 22/04/2025 14:14:29    2603647

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I was criticised on here when I criticised Davy Burke post win v Mayo in Mchale Park a couple of years ago. People were hailing him and loved his open approach in post match interviews. I said he was a fan of his own voice and a great man for self promotion after a win. That same summer he was on the radio as a pundit and the Sunday game. Any chance to be chatting!

Following on from that he made the ridiculous comments about the amount of training sessions his team had done and Roscommon are now starting to go backwards under him rather than forwards . His post match interview Sunday was embarrassing. Said he wouldn't blame the officials but kept going on about them. I don't mind criticising these type of coaches because they are anything but amateur.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8353 - 22/04/2025 16:09:19    2603677

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Replying To dave1988:  "The changing of coaches every year cant help either. Id hope players go back to clubs for a couple of weeks and clear heads and management sit down and try save this season."
Is management capable of that?
Or will they think their time here is nearly at an end and just see it out and clear off after we finish 4th in the Group?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2252 - 22/04/2025 16:36:53    2603681

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Replying To The_analyser:  "I know the minors are doing excellent with a mayo management team
Gavlar (Roscommon)

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A Mayo native manager who's now a Roscommon Gaels club member for a few years and led his club to Div 1 U20 title before this years minor gig.

The coaches on his management team are from Kilmore, Pádraig Pearses and Strokestown.

On the seniotd. Aren't Roscommon men but Anthony Cunningham, Kevin McStay weren't seen as outside managers given they live in this county and well tuned in to what is happening in the club and underage scene with that in mind Burke is our first true outside manager since Evans 2013 to 2015."
Very deflating few weeks. Since the Cork game we have been on a downward spiral. Some of the selection decisions have been strange.

I am biased as he is a player from my club but what has happened to Conor Hand. He is not injured or he would not be on the panel. From being on of the stand out players to now not getting on at all is strange

Think this is the last year with Davy and if the county board are serious about staying in division one and having plans in place for next year they should start sounding out potential managers now instead of waiting for the inevitable

BrigidsToom (Roscommon) - Posts: 27 - 22/04/2025 17:34:08    2603710

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U20 Connacht semi final on tomorrow evening at 8pm. We did well to finish 2nd in the table and during the four games we have showed the amount of good talented footballers that are coming through and hopefully a few go on to play for the county senior team in the years ahead.

Team selected

Patrick Gaynor - Western Gaels
Keelan Kelly - Padraig Pearses
Tommy Morris - St Aidans
Cillian Campbell - St Barry's
Conor Grogan - Roscommon Gaels
Eoghan Carthy - Roscommon Gaels
Conor Kelly - Boyle
Niall Heneghan - Michael Glaveys
David Higgins - Western Gaels
Eoin Collins - St Croans
Ryan Dowling - Roscommon Gaels
Cathal McKeon - Boyle
John Curran - Castlerea
Rory Carthy - Roscommon Gaels
John McGuinness - Roscommon Gaels

Subs. Sean Kelly (Clann na nGael) Rob Heneghan (Michael Glaveys) Daniel Hagney (Michael Glaveys) Ciaran O'Reilly (Roscommon Gaels) Ruairi Kilcline (St Dominics) Brian Greene (Eire Og) Colin Murray (Fuerty) Ruadhan Henry (St Michaels)

Best of luck to the young rossies in the Connacht GAA centre tomorrow evening.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4017 - 22/04/2025 17:46:59    2603711

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