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Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Put a goalie jersey on a forward and give Conor number 14, its a no brainer.
What is wrong with management?" They have a sub keeper who is a forward.If they won't change in a game like that hard to know when they will
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 383 - 15/02/2025 19:16:48
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The biggest problem for. Me is we not finding any scoring forwards we have 1 and that definitely not enough even against mayo no half forward scored or o Neill in corner and Galway.don't have scoring forwards in panel
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1002 - 15/02/2025 19:21:26
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Replying To giveitlong: "O'Laoi has been nervous, and has been taking too much out of it in all 3 games but he can still come good hopefully, a few scores could turn it around for him. After 3 games it is unforgivable for any team to be getting caught out not having 3 up. That was the difference in winning and getting a draw. Anyway good to get 5 from 6 points with 2 away games. My main concern is our sluggishness moving the ball up the field with good kick passing." Sorry to harsh on one player but this isn't nerves or the 3 games this has been his entire Galway career can carry ball but unless it's a gimme hand pass over bar we are unlikely to get many scores out of him gleeson will likely score more from play.
Hernon Sweeney oflaherty can all do his role and offer more of a scoring threat
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1345 - 15/02/2025 19:29:17
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Replying To Kickitout: "The biggest problem for. Me is we not finding any scoring forwards we have 1 and that definitely not enough even against mayo no half forward scored or o Neill in corner and Galway.don't have scoring forwards in panel" We need scorers and if a guy can't score he needs to be able to break the line, then on top of that with the option of 12v11 a keeper that can threaten the score board. I read during the weak that kick passing has gone down with the new rules so kicking from deep not really happening in the games. Peter Cooke would make a difference breaking the line
smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 454 - 15/02/2025 19:33:05
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Replying To Kickitout: "The biggest problem for. Me is we not finding any scoring forwards we have 1 and that definitely not enough even against mayo no half forward scored or o Neill in corner and Galway.don't have scoring forwards in panel" The main reason they(excluding Walsh) don't score is rooted in a lack of pace for the highest level imo, as opposed to any shortcomings in their striking skills. O'Laoi is the possible exception in that he has pace, but doesn't look like a competent score taker.
Can't be too critical of the forwards in that second half imo, as we were demolished for possession all over the field, once Derry resolved to get really stuck in after HT. Lucky to draw, Walsh's late 2pointer free looked a dubious award.
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Replying To togoutlads: "Decent so far but - How many times does one player have to get turned over before we will make a change? Wake up sideline." The reason O'Laoi was turned over was partly due to the fact that at least he was taking players on at pace, while most of his forward colleagues,and indeed forward replacements, simply don't have the pace to trouble top class intercontinental defenders taking them on at 'pace'. It was notable that O'Laoi's substitution didn't alter the second half momentum one iota.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3966 - 15/02/2025 19:49:46
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A tremendous first half from our lads, 9 points up and in cruise control, should have been more but we don't seem to step on team's throats quite hard enough when we can, as a Dublin in their prime or the superb Kilkenny hurling team going back a few years would have. When they saw an opposition gasping for air, they'd double their effort for 10 mins to finish them off.
Then what followed was a second half implosion that was actually kind of upsetting for Galway supporters young and old to watch. We were toothless, lost most of our will for the battle apart from a handful of players. Looked jaded and unfit in comparison. The stats will absolutely back this up. 12 points to 3 for Derry. Well, 11 actually but then they should've had another 4 or 5. Our sideline froze too. I've more to say but I'm trying not to vent here :-)
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1012 - 15/02/2025 19:53:00
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Some of the positives were Maher's general performance and leadership and a standout was his blocking. Blocking was something we weren't doing against Mayo as I'd gone on about in a post after that game, but really positive to see we were already addressing this and some of Maher's blocks were critical, as it turned out. Daly's were key too. Also, Kelly and others were getting the hands in on shots. Maher, McHugh, Walsh all looked good in the first half. McGrath and Fitz too. But games aren't wrapped up at half time.
Our implosion in the second half had a number of key factors at play. We looked jaded. Wrecked and not up for the battle. We were going to give them a purple patch and boy did they take it. We couldn't win a kickout or a break worth a damn, in fact we were embarrassingly massacred in the second half on kick outs. Our battling for breaking ball looked like boys against men then, and even when Derry players went to ground a few times with 3 even 4 of our lads around them, they still were allowed to get the ball away.
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1012 - 15/02/2025 19:54:31
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "The main reason they(excluding Walsh) don't score is rooted in a lack of pace for the highest level imo, as opposed to any shortcomings in their striking skills. O'Laoi is the possible exception in that he has pace, but doesn't look like a competent score taker.
Can't be too critical of the forwards in that second half imo, as we were demolished for possession all over the field, once Derry resolved to get really stuck in after HT. Lucky to draw, Walsh's late 2pointer free looked a dubious award." The overhead behind goal is great for kickouts.
There were a number of times you could see a Galway player 1v1 with Derry keeper, who I know is an outfielder but one time we kicked there oflaherty won it easy. Seemed to me it was a much better kickout option than into crowd when we were getting wiped out
Gleeson does seem to struggle kicking across his body out to his left
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1345 - 15/02/2025 19:55:53
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As for the kickouts themselves, the repeated delays were going to get pinged and it happened. Our short ones were predictable enough but our long ones were so, so very obvious and telegraphed. Kids knew which way it was coming - seriously. A bunch of kids called left or right accurately every single time. How could you tell? Well, Gleeson's mannerisms, body shape and alignment as he prepares to kick is the equivalent of a light up billboard saying, 'I'm going right!' I'll take a look at the angles that the high TV camera must have got on the kickouts, but I'd say it illustrates it even more. Maybe our mentors should review that.
As for Conor's outfield play, anyone who knows him knows he's a super lad but I'm sorry, there's competition for that jersey and his outfield standard is simply not good enough given the enormous scope that these new rules are now affording goalies. The new rules are practically guaranteeing to hand multiple possessions in every single game this year to goalies around the 40m attacking arc. These are now definitively scoring opportunities - or at least prime score creation opps. We all know this. Or do we? Does our sideline see it? Do they not see a glaring opportunity here? Is PJ going to keep doubling down for the sake of it, as is his want at times, or is he willing to just see could we have a keeper that can kick a point, or two, or three - or at the very least present a feasible threat of being able to do so, and thereby draw opposition's cover and create space for our attackers? Conor was left unmarked on all occasions going forward this evening as Derry knew exactly what he could and couldn't do, and that's not good enough for a team with real AI ambitions. Every team knows this now - make no mistake. We must try something here. The maroon and white punter forking out for the tickets, and the diesel, and the grub on the road, and maybe a room for a night on the road supporting this team is asking for this. Answer us!
O'Laoi's repeated and costly turnovers took almost 50 long minutes for our sideline to address when the stands and terraces could see it in half that time. We have to be quick minded and nimble on the sideline. We're still appearing as indecisive as last year and that has to improve. If a lad is having a very poor one, and unfortunately keeps showing it, then don't dig the heels in as mentors and think it'll just magic itself right, it won't. Act. Swiftly. Conroy seemed heavy legged and turned over far too easily too.
Ah, it's frustrating and its easy for me to give out, from a brilliant first half to that shambles of a second half, its hard to know but we still live in a lot of hope and these lads can drive on again. We still got the draw, and we're unbeaten but much to improve on if the promised land is being eyed in the summer!
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1012 - 15/02/2025 19:58:17
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "The main reason they(excluding Walsh) don't score is rooted in a lack of pace for the highest level imo, as opposed to any shortcomings in their striking skills. O'Laoi is the possible exception in that he has pace, but doesn't look like a competent score taker.
Can't be too critical of the forwards in that second half imo, as we were demolished for possession all over the field, once Derry resolved to get really stuck in after HT. Lucky to draw, Walsh's late 2pointer free looked a dubious award." PJ said that McDaid has a knock so wasn't involved. Hope to have him back next week. Comer training away but won't be involved next week.
Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2339 - 15/02/2025 20:03:11
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Replying To togoutlads: "Some of the positives were Maher's general performance and leadership and a standout was his blocking. Blocking was something we weren't doing against Mayo as I'd gone on about in a post after that game, but really positive to see we were already addressing this and some of Maher's blocks were critical, as it turned out. Daly's were key too. Also, Kelly and others were getting the hands in on shots. Maher, McHugh, Walsh all looked good in the first half. McGrath and Fitz too. But games aren't wrapped up at half time.
Our implosion in the second half had a number of key factors at play. We looked jaded. Wrecked and not up for the battle. We were going to give them a purple patch and boy did they take it. We couldn't win a kickout or a break worth a damn, in fact we were embarrassingly massacred in the second half on kick outs. Our battling for breaking ball looked like boys against men then, and even when Derry players went to ground a few times with 3 even 4 of our lads around them, they still were allowed to get the ball away." Derry didn't even catch many kick outs. It was all breaking ball they won. We often had loads of players under the dropping ball but somehow a Derry player would still come away with it. We had the numbers there so I can only think it was pure hunger from Derry and not so much from ourselves. The very last kick out of the game there must have been 8 Galway lads under the ball and somehow McFaul came away with it after diving on a loose ball.
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Replying To togoutlads: "As for the kickouts themselves, the repeated delays were going to get pinged and it happened. Our short ones were predictable enough but our long ones were so, so very obvious and telegraphed. Kids knew which way it was coming - seriously. A bunch of kids called left or right accurately every single time. How could you tell? Well, Gleeson's mannerisms, body shape and alignment as he prepares to kick is the equivalent of a light up billboard saying, 'I'm going right!' I'll take a look at the angles that the high TV camera must have got on the kickouts, but I'd say it illustrates it even more. Maybe our mentors should review that.
As for Conor's outfield play, anyone who knows him knows he's a super lad but I'm sorry, there's competition for that jersey and his outfield standard is simply not good enough given the enormous scope that these new rules are now affording goalies. The new rules are practically guaranteeing to hand multiple possessions in every single game this year to goalies around the 40m attacking arc. These are now definitively scoring opportunities - or at least prime score creation opps. We all know this. Or do we? Does our sideline see it? Do they not see a glaring opportunity here? Is PJ going to keep doubling down for the sake of it, as is his want at times, or is he willing to just see could we have a keeper that can kick a point, or two, or three - or at the very least present a feasible threat of being able to do so, and thereby draw opposition's cover and create space for our attackers? Conor was left unmarked on all occasions going forward this evening as Derry knew exactly what he could and couldn't do, and that's not good enough for a team with real AI ambitions. Every team knows this now - make no mistake. We must try something here. The maroon and white punter forking out for the tickets, and the diesel, and the grub on the road, and maybe a room for a night on the road supporting this team is asking for this. Answer us!
O'Laoi's repeated and costly turnovers took almost 50 long minutes for our sideline to address when the stands and terraces could see it in half that time. We have to be quick minded and nimble on the sideline. We're still appearing as indecisive as last year and that has to improve. If a lad is having a very poor one, and unfortunately keeps showing it, then don't dig the heels in as mentors and think it'll just magic itself right, it won't. Act. Swiftly. Conroy seemed heavy legged and turned over far too easily too.
Ah, it's frustrating and its easy for me to give out, from a brilliant first half to that shambles of a second half, its hard to know but we still live in a lot of hope and these lads can drive on again. We still got the draw, and we're unbeaten but much to improve on if the promised land is being eyed in the summer!" This time last year we would have loved a draw.Our ambitions have increased.Not a great night but if that is the worst night we have we be doing ok.Hope we learn from it and move on.Time will tell.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 383 - 15/02/2025 20:21:42
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Replying To Marooned: "Derry didn't even catch many kick outs. It was all breaking ball they won. We often had loads of players under the dropping ball but somehow a Derry player would still come away with it. We had the numbers there so I can only think it was pure hunger from Derry and not so much from ourselves. The very last kick out of the game there must have been 8 Galway lads under the ball and somehow McFaul came away with it after diving on a loose ball." I made another post on my view of the kickouts.
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1012 - 15/02/2025 20:23:30
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Dublin v Kerry with the strong wind play out the same way as the match in Celtic Park. Galway at least avoided defeat unlike Kerry when 9 points ahead.
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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer: "Dublin v Kerry with the strong wind play out the same way as the match in Celtic Park. Galway at least avoided defeat unlike Kerry when 9 points ahead." I was thinking the same thing and I'm just thankful we didn't give up one more point. Any Road win or draw is nice especially against a desperate team like Derry that needed to salvage something from the match. Hopefully Galway learn something from this.
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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer: "Dublin v Kerry with the strong wind play out the same way as the match in Celtic Park. Galway at least avoided defeat unlike Kerry when 9 points ahead." Dublin were actually 12 down after 21 minutes, 1-12 to 3pts
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 847 - 15/02/2025 21:38:51
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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer: "Dublin v Kerry with the strong wind play out the same way as the match in Celtic Park. Galway at least avoided defeat unlike Kerry when 9 points ahead." Kerry were 11 points ahead at half time, if we've learned anything from today's games it's a 10 point lead means nothing with a good breeze and the 2 pointers.
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Replying To Yvrjd: "Kerry were 11 points ahead at half time, if we've learned anything from today's games it's a 10 point lead means nothing with a good breeze and the 2 pointers." Correct and makes Galway's draw look a bit better that Kerry couldn't hold on for at least a draw at home against new look Dublin team.
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Replying To togoutlads: "I made another post on my view of the kickouts." A hard game to fathom, we looked very impressive in the warm up. I thought our defensive in the first half was superb. Full back line totally in control. Shane touched the ball 2 or 3 times in the first half and got two 2 pointers, we got our scores a lot easier then derry in that first half. 2nd half was a disaster.. but we still got the draw, if the game had went on a minute later derry would have snatched it. 5 points out of 6 isn't bad but the lead we had at half time you'd expect us to see it through. Overall we are in a good place. But... If Shane walsh wasn't in the starting 15 we are in big trouble up front, in the 2nd half Mcfaul bullied Tierney off the ball. Tierney a good foot over him, jesus man show a bit of bite and sow it back into him. Daly for me isn't the answer at 6. I hope he proves me wrong.
Galway2026 (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 15/02/2025 23:56:15
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