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'very much a 50/50 game', and a few days later 'Martin Storey's tache' is over on the Leinster Championship thread, proposing a move to Munster for Galway in a straight swop with Waterford moving to Leinster. Saving diesel and distance for fans in support of the green economy was cited as 'motivation' of sorts for the move!!
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4141 - 13/05/2025 15:54:05 2609265 Link 1 |
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We are 1/5 to win tomorrow night which is fairly short but I'd be confident once the five week gap has been managed correctly. The team named has a couple of changes from the Offaly game with Gavin Maher and Vince Morgan from Loughrea in for Conor Gilligan and Ryan O'Donnell. Would expect Kilkenny to beat Laois pretty easily in the other semi final. Don't think this Laois team is up to much, especially in their back line. Kilkenny's size in the forward line will give them awful trouble. galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 896 - 13/05/2025 19:03:12 2609339 Link 0 |
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The best way to bring players through is to win under 20 , PERIOD
SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 13/05/2025 19:38:50 2609351 Link 0 |
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It's the best way, but not the only way. And it's not always a guaranteed way either. Only Limerick of the u20/1 AI winners from the last 10 years have followed up with a SenIor AI, and it took players from 2 u21 AI winning teams to achieve that.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15768 - 13/05/2025 22:28:24 2609393 Link 0 |
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I don't know what you're getting at
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3590 - 13/05/2025 22:44:25 2609399 Link 0 |
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I totally agree, there's no chicken/egg which comes first here at all. U21 championships lead to 'developed players' for senior fare. That's been the steady Galway pattern stretching back to 1972. I don't know what sort of u21 'development' went on in Galway since 2011, but it hasn't delivered championships, and in the past decade hasn't delivered players either.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4141 - 13/05/2025 23:35:08 2609415 Link 1 |
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By my count there are 10 of the starting fifteen for tonight's u20 semi final who are underage again next year. Callanan, Donnellan and Maher starting will be eligible for this grade in two years time. galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 896 - 14/05/2025 08:21:04 2609440 Link 1 |
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Not the first time the Pope has written something esoteric and kabbalistic. I think it goes with the title!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2017 - 14/05/2025 09:14:22 2609447 Link 0 |
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Writing the word period instead of just.
The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 774 - 14/05/2025 09:28:24 2609450 Link 1 |
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If I had the track record he has as an IC underage manager I wouldn't be stressing the importance of 'winning championships' either. I'd be keeping very, very quiet about that part. But when you look more closely at the facts of the matter they don't make for magnificent reading. He had two years as minor manager, lost an AISF to Tipperary, won a Leinster MHC, lost an AIF we were piping hot favourites for and he got absolutely schooled by Brendan Bugler on the line that day. He had Aaron Niland both years. Last year at U20, we were dreadful against Offaly the first day out and somehow escaped with a draw from the jaws of defeat. We beat Dublin comfortably (with Niland), then played them 5 weeks later (without Niland) and got an absolute battering where a 10+ margin in the end didn't flatter Dublin in the slightest. He was schooled on the line that day also. Now one imagines that Healy has ambitions to be senior manager one day, as he should or he has no business being in the U20 job, but if we were to lose tonight, that would be two years in a row, and with a team formed from 'his' minor players, would have bowed out of the U20 championship without even making a Leinster Final. With all due respect, losing to Dublin for two years in a row at U20 would be unpalatable to me. Particularly as the Dublin team that walloped us lost the Leinster final to Offaly last year. Now I don't know about you, but if this transpires this evening, it's hard to make a case that these players are collectively 'developing' in any positive direction under him. This is why tonight is huge for him personally. They may win tonight and go on to do great things in this year's competition and if so, great. But this is the flip side. Because you simply can't parrot the 'player development' claim if you aren't involved in competitions at the sharp end consistently. Nobody is being developed by getting knocked out in Leinster by Dublin. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 910 - 14/05/2025 10:30:43 2609475 Link 1 |
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If I had the track record he has as an IC underage manager I wouldn't be stressing the importance of 'winning championships' either. I'd be keeping very, very quiet about that part. But when you look more closely at the facts of the matter they don't make for magnificent reading. He had two years as minor manager, lost an AISF to Tipperary, won a Leinster MHC, lost an AIF we were piping hot favourites for and he got absolutely schooled by Brendan Bugler on the line that day. He had Aaron Niland both years. Last year at U20, we were dreadful against Offaly the first day out and somehow escaped with a draw from the jaws of defeat. We beat Dublin comfortably (with Niland), then played them 5 weeks later (without Niland) and got an absolute battering where a 10+ margin in the end didn't flatter Dublin in the slightest. He was schooled on the line that day also. Now one imagines that Healy has ambitions to be senior manager one day, as he should or he has no business being in the U20 job, but if we were to lose tonight, that would be two years in a row, and with a team formed from 'his' minor players, would have bowed out of the U20 championship without even making a Leinster Final. With all due respect, losing to Dublin for two years in a row at U20 would be unpalatable to me. Particularly as the Dublin team that walloped us lost the Leinster final to Offaly last year. Now I don't know about you, but if this transpires this evening, it's hard to make a case that these players are collectively 'developing' in any positive direction under him. This is why tonight is huge for him personally. They may win tonight and go on to do great things in this year's competition and if so, great. But this is the flip side. Because you simply can't parrot the 'player development' claim if you aren't involved in competitions at the sharp end consistently. Nobody is being developed by getting knocked out in Leinster by Dublin. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 910 - 14/05/2025 10:31:09 2609476 Link 2 |
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Still to this day I can't believe how badly he got out coached in that minor all ireland final. That minor team had won every game by double digits all through Leinster and the Cork game but then completely lost their defensive shape in the final. It won't be acceptable to lose tonight and if they do lose then they will be looking for a new manager. The thing is, some new manager could be handed the keys to what is on paper our best u20 squad in a long time next year. Hopefully they get the job done tonight and move on to the Leinster final but there is no doubt there is serious pressure on.
galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 896 - 14/05/2025 11:01:16 2609489 Link 0 |