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Replying To Gearoid1998ffowaed:  "When are the Senior Relegation Semi Finals on?"
Saturday and Sunday respectively

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 17/09/2024 19:18:21    2570461

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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "Honestly most clubs are looking just to win a county final and not beyond that.The more hurling and games teams get the better.Most of these lads have been training since early in the year and at least preliminary Q/F give them an extra game.We don't have provincial club like football clubs so we afford to have extra weekend playing hurling in Galway."
But honestly my point is the Preliminary Quarter Finals are a waste of time because whoever finishes 3rd in their group most certainly isn't going to win the County Final.
So they get the extra game of a Preliminary Quarter Final where the success rate of a 3rd group placed team winning is almost 0%.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 17/09/2024 19:27:29    2570463

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Replying To katser:  "Ok so the famous Preliminary Quarter Finals are on this weekend in both Senior and Intermediate.
Cappataggle v Killimordaly...................Cappy
Clarinbridge v Ardrahan.......................'Bridge
St.Thomas' v Craughwell.......................Thomas'
Castlegar v Kilconieron..........................Cashel

Senior Relegation Semi Finals
Mullagh v Moycullen.........................Mullagh
Gort v Oranmore-Maree...................Gort

Intermediate Preliminary Quarter Finals
Apart from Killimor all the other games is anybodies guess because none of them will go further than Quarter Final!!
Killimor v Craughwell.......................Killimor 20pts
Ballygar v Turloughmore.....?
Clarinbridge v Rahoon-Newcastle?
Sylane v Abbeyknockmoy?"
Preliminary Quarter Finals:
Cappataggle v Killimordaly...................Cappy
Clarinbridge v Ardrahan.......................'Bridge
St.Thomas' v Craughwell.......................Thomas'
Castlegar v Kilconieron..........................Cashel

Senior Relegation Semi Finals:
Mullagh v Moycullen.........................Mullagh
Gort v Oranmore-Maree...................Gort

Intermediate Preliminary Quarter Finals
Apart from Killimor all the other games is anybodies guess because none of them will go further than Quarter Final!!
Killimor v Craughwell..................….....Killimor
Ballygar v Turloughmore...…………….Ballygar
Clarinbridge v Rahoon-Newcastle….Rahoon
Sylane v Abbeyknockmoy………………Sylane

*****I agreed with all your picks above but the Gort match is very iffy. Will Johnathan Glynn be back for Ardrahan?

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2269 - 18/09/2024 17:32:02    2570615

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Preliminary Quarter Finals:
Cappataggle v Killimordaly...................Cappy
Clarinbridge v Ardrahan.......................'Bridge
St.Thomas' v Craughwell.......................Thomas'
Castlegar v Kilconieron..........................Cashel

Senior Relegation Semi Finals:
Mullagh v Moycullen.........................Mullagh
Gort v Oranmore-Maree...................Gort

Intermediate Preliminary Quarter Finals
Apart from Killimor all the other games is anybodies guess because none of them will go further than Quarter Final!!
Killimor v Craughwell..................….....Killimor
Ballygar v Turloughmore...…………….Ballygar
Clarinbridge v Rahoon-Newcastle….Rahoon
Sylane v Abbeyknockmoy………………Sylane

*****I agreed with all your picks above but the Gort match is very iffy. Will Johnathan Glynn be back for Ardrahan?"
"Preliminary Quarter Finals:
Cappataggle v Killimordaly...................Killimorday
Clarinbridge v Ardrahan.......................'Bridge
St.Thomas' v Craughwell.......................Thomas'
Castlegar v Kilconieron..........................Cashel
Senior Relegation Semi Finals: Mullagh v Moycullen.........................Muoycullen
Gort v Oranmore-Maree...................Oranmore
Intermediate Preliminary Quarter Finals
Killimor v Craughwell..................….....Killimor
Ballygar v Turloughmore...…………….Ballygar
Clarinbridge v Rahoon-Newcastle….Bridge
Sylane v Abbeyknockmoy………………Sylane

Green&Gold2013 (Galway) - Posts: 14 - 19/09/2024 02:25:55    2570653

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Replying To katser:  "Killimor finished 2nd in their group. They will be in the Quarter Final.
In the Quarter Finals Meelick-Eyrecourt, Tynagh-Abbey/Duniry, Kinvara and Carnmore are all seeded (Group winners)
I wouldn't fancy Killimor v Meelick-Eyrecourt or TAD but I would give them a 50/50 chance v Kinvara or Carnmore."
For a few different reasons I'd like to see Kinvara win it out, but wouldn't be unhappy to see TAD win it either.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14008 - 19/09/2024 07:14:59    2570658

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I expect Clarinbridge to come through Ardrahan but they are under awful pressure in this game. Would be a disaster for them to go out in a preliminary quarter final. Didn't get going at all against Loughrea. They really need Shane Ryan and Aaron Niland in soon. Ardrahan will give them plenty with Glynn and Kennedy back.

Thomas' haven't played a stitch of hurling yet in the championship and I'm not a believer that they will just turn it on. Disciplinary issues in every game for them so far. They will beat a poor Craughwell side but a quarter final is likely as far as they will go considering they will play either Turlough, Sarsfields or Loughrea.

The other two are hard to call. Cappy have looked decent in spurts but they are very reliant on Niall Collins. I'll back them to beat Kilimordaly just about. Cashel haven't played well since the Oranmore game and shouldn't have got through really. I think Kilconieron can take them out here. They are strong enough in the backs to hold up Farragher, Thomas and Connolly and keep it a low scoring game. Whoever wins this is probably the weakest quarter finalist.

I'd be very surprised if Oranmore don't beat Gort. Too much quality on the field. Moycullen Mullagh is a toss up. Conor Dolphin might be good enough to swing it towards Mullagh. Kilimor are the only dangerous team in those intermediate games this weekend although I suspect it's inevitable that TAD are going to finally win it this year and probably win it fairly comfortably.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 798 - 19/09/2024 10:05:44    2570688

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Replying To katser:  "But honestly my point is the Preliminary Quarter Finals are a waste of time because whoever finishes 3rd in their group most certainly isn't going to win the County Final.
So they get the extra game of a Preliminary Quarter Final where the success rate of a 3rd group placed team winning is almost 0%."
Same as saying the new style champions league is a waste of time, because 36 sides don't have a chance of winning it, nor do 16 or more of the 24 qualifiers. You'll still have 4 full houses in Celtic Park in the coming months, and at many other venues as well, and 3 or 4 TV channels discussing Celtic's qualification odds for the next three months.

It's a silly point you make, that teams who won't win the county final are wasting their time playing games in the competition. The vast majority of teams, in all sports worldwide, play their games without winning the competitions they're competing in.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3886 - 19/09/2024 13:48:37    2570752

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Same as saying the new style champions league is a waste of time, because 36 sides don't have a chance of winning it, nor do 16 or more of the 24 qualifiers. You'll still have 4 full houses in Celtic Park in the coming months, and at many other venues as well, and 3 or 4 TV channels discussing Celtic's qualification odds for the next three months.

It's a silly point you make, that teams who won't win the county final are wasting their time playing games in the competition. The vast majority of teams, in all sports worldwide, play their games without winning the competitions they're competing in."
My original point is......there is no need to be playing County Finals in bleek miserable November because we loose 4 weeks due to playing poxy unnecessary Preliminary Quarter Finals just to facilitate a 3rd group placed team.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 19/09/2024 18:47:59    2570837

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Replying To katser:  "My original point is......there is no need to be playing County Finals in bleek miserable November because we loose 4 weeks due to playing poxy unnecessary Preliminary Quarter Finals just to facilitate a 3rd group placed team."
100% Correct - it's madness.
Should be top two teams to quarter finals and if your not good enough to finish top two your only wasting your time and also the clubs money paying a trainer circa €100 a night for extra few weeks.

John Doe (Galway) - Posts: 241 - 20/09/2024 07:31:23    2570885

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Replying To katser:  "My original point is......there is no need to be playing County Finals in bleek miserable November because we loose 4 weeks due to playing poxy unnecessary Preliminary Quarter Finals just to facilitate a 3rd group placed team."
Weather often better these days in Sept/Oct/Nov than in Jun/July/August. This year no exception so far.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3886 - 20/09/2024 11:28:27    2570943

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Weather often better these days in Sept/Oct/Nov than in Jun/July/August. This year no exception so far."
Also that Junior A,B,C,D,E,F is a calamity of a set up with two groups of 6 in each grade apart from Junior A!
It should be 16 teams with 4 groups of 4 in Junior A,B,C and D and top 2 from each group into Quarter Finals.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 20/09/2024 17:37:29    2571038

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Replying To katser:  "But honestly my point is the Preliminary Quarter Finals are a waste of time because whoever finishes 3rd in their group most certainly isn't going to win the County Final.
So they get the extra game of a Preliminary Quarter Final where the success rate of a 3rd group placed team winning is almost 0%."
Sure only one team can win a competition.Its about keeping lads hurling.These have been training since start of year,why not give them extra game?And if county final is being played in Nov so what?Club final is in January so whoever wins County final needs to be able to play in wet cold weather.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 369 - 20/09/2024 17:50:24    2571040

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Positional switches from the Loughrea loss made a massive difference to Clarinbridge today. Dylan Dunne hurled a lot of ball at centre back, Kilduff starting at midfield and Evan Niland moving inside with Josh Ryan freed up Gavin Lee at centre forward. Mad the amount of u20s they have in the team. Must have had six or seven of them see action today and obviously still missing the main man from that underage team.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 798 - 21/09/2024 17:51:25    2571190

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Well done to Clarenbridge. Great win. Gort got a fair old hammering sigh.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2269 - 21/09/2024 19:24:11    2571196

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Well done to Clarenbridge. Great win. Gort got a fair old hammering sigh."
Oranmore would have been an addition to the last 12 playoffs. Remarkable to fall from first to last in a group of four, off the back of a last second injury time goal concession.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3886 - 22/09/2024 08:30:16    2571239

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Oranmore would have been an addition to the last 12 playoffs. Remarkable to fall from first to last in a group of four, off the back of a last second injury time goal concession."
Same with Claregalway went from second to last and lost out by 1 pt SD.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 369 - 22/09/2024 14:05:06    2571254

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So far Preliminary Quarter Finals complete waste of time with 3rd group placed team in brackets.......
Clarinbridge 3-22 Ardrahan (3rd) 0-18
Castlegar 2-25 Kilconieron (3rd) 0-13
What enjoyment have Ardrahan and Kilconerion got after 13pt and 18pt loss respectively.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 22/09/2024 14:40:01    2571260

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Replying To katser:  "So far Preliminary Quarter Finals complete waste of time with 3rd group placed team in brackets.......
Clarinbridge 3-22 Ardrahan (3rd) 0-18
Castlegar 2-25 Kilconieron (3rd) 0-13
What enjoyment have Ardrahan and Kilconerion got after 13pt and 18pt loss respectively."
Preliminary Quarter Final
Cappataggle 3-27 Killimordaly (3rd) 2-15
15pt loss for another team who finished 3rd in their group!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 22/09/2024 16:08:23    2571263

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Replying To katser:  "Preliminary Quarter Final
Cappataggle 3-27 Killimordaly (3rd) 2-15
15pt loss for another team who finished 3rd in their group!"
100% the preliminary quarter finals need to be scrapped and this weekend has provided the evidence why with 3 hammerings so far and another one to come next week for Craughwell.
Delegates need to get this through at the AGM and stop the madness.
On another topic nice to see Joe Canning back in another county semi final.

John Doe (Galway) - Posts: 241 - 23/09/2024 09:25:20    2571374

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Replying To katser:  "Aren't the Preliminary Quarter Finals a complete waste of 2 weeks in the Intermediate and Senior Championships.
I've always maintained it should be the top two from each group straight into the Quarter Finals.
In Intermediate TAD,Eyrecourt, Kinvara and possibly Carnmore or maybe Killimor will make Semi Finals no question.
In Senior A bit more tricky with Thomas' and the 'Bridge as runners up in their group also Cappy when it comes to the Quarter Finals with big dogs Loughrea and Turlough as group winners.
But basically any team that finished 3rd in their respective group Senior or Intermediate hasn't a hope of getting to the Semi Finals.
So it's 4 weeks now till the Quarter Finals can be played because of poxy unnecessary Preliminary Quarter Finals (2nd v 3rd in Group)"
Intermediate Quarter Finals
Tynagh/Abbey-Duniry v Rahoon-Newcastle.............TAD
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Turloughmore...........................Eyrecourt
Kinvara v Sylane............................................................Kinvara
Carnmore v Killimor........50/50 game????..................Killimor

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 25/09/2024 23:24:21    2571878

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