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Replying To tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
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Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." We all know that the Association is a democratic and an amateur one and because of that it carries a bit of discretionary flexibility.
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
In fairness I have never seen or heard of any county penalized or sanctioned for not promoting our national games any more than they are, therefore Croke Park officials seem to be happy enough, however anyone with a bit of honesty in them will admit that hurling clubs and counties across the country are conveniently forgotten about and left to look after themselves.
The main player in Brian Cody's management team lent his assistance to Carlow's Hanrahan's senior football club and helped them win 3 senior county championship titles and finished it off by winning a Leinster senior football title in 2000 / '01. Kilkenny themselves have a historic 3 leinster senior football titles, some of us mere mortals have one or two but they have three, they then concentrated their energies on the game of hurling, the rest as they say is history.
Good luck to them.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3148 - 01/04/2025 20:20:36
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Replying To Square_B: " Replying To Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2185 - 01/04/2025 20:28:43
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Replying To Square_B: " Replying To Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 01/04/2025 21:18:01
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Replying To Square_B: " Replying To Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15267 - 01/04/2025 21:57:48
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Replying To Seanfanbocht: " Replying To Square_B: "[quote=Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1240 - 01/04/2025 22:29:08
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Replying To Viking66: " Replying To Square_B: "[quote=Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1240 - 01/04/2025 23:49:08
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@Square_B: In reply to your own response to Viking, must say I'm not sure there's any point in posting anything useful here. Both yourself and the Baron lad from Mayo continue to ignore relevant information about the amount of football played in Kilkenny compared to the amount of hurling played in several other counties.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2802 - 02/04/2025 09:26:55
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Replying To Square_B: " Replying To Viking66: "[quote=Square_B: "[quote=Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15267 - 02/04/2025 10:40:40
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Replying To Viking66: " Replying To Square_B: "[quote=Viking66: "[quote=Square_B: "[quote=Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1240 - 02/04/2025 12:53:38
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Replying To Pikeman96: "@Square_B: In reply to your own response to Viking, must say I'm not sure there's any point in posting anything useful here. Both yourself and the Baron lad from Mayo continue to ignore relevant information about the amount of football played in Kilkenny compared to the amount of hurling played in several other counties." How many league fixtures did Kilkenny seniors play in 2025? I think you know the answer to that. How exactly can the standard of football improve when they don't bother putting any resources into entering a team in the League & Championship? I've said, take their funding away until they focus resources on entering a team in the League & Championship proper.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1240 - 02/04/2025 13:27:52
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Replying To Square_B: " Replying To Viking66: "[quote=Square_B: "[quote=Viking66: "[quote=Square_B: "[quote=Viking66: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Its a basic fundamental of GAA membership
1.3 of the Official Guide
National Games
"The Association shall promote and control the National games of Hurling, Gaelic Football, Handball and Rounders, and such other games, as may be sanctioned and approved by Annual Congress".
1.5
Dedication
"The Association and its resources shall be used for and dedicated solely to the above aims".
1.9
Units/Jurisdiction
The Association is a democratic organisation comprising
the following units:
(a) Clubs
(b) County Committees
(c) Provincial Councils
(d) Central Council
(e) Annual Congress
Members of the Association shall, by virtue of their membership, be subject to the jurisdiction of the Association's Rules, Bye-Laws and Regulations, which shall govern the relationship between the various units, between members, and between members and units.
3.23
Loss of Rights of County
A County failing to compete in either the Senior, Intermediate or Junior Inter-County Championships shall forfeit representation on Provincial and Central Councils, and shall not be entitled to make nominations, table motions, or participate in Provincial Convention or Annual Congress.
The GAA need to modify the All Ireland championships into 16 senior, 12 intermediate and 8 junior. If Kilkenny don't enter, then they get sanctioned as per the above." Maybe best you do a little research for yourself. Kilkenny compete in the AI Junior Championship as it is. Since it restarted after covid in 2022 they have won it once, and reached 1 of the 2 other finals, only losing by a point."
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15267 - 02/04/2025 13:30:05
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Seriously though Square_B it's not a case of defending Kilkenny. But facts are facts. Every young lad in that county can get Football training and CB organised games within 5 miles of where he lives if his local club don't do Football. And there's only 2 1 club parishes in Kilkenny where the club doesn't play underage football to start with.
That's sadly not true about hurling in a good number of counties.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15267 - 02/04/2025 13:37:45
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Replying To Square_B: " Replying To Pikeman96: "@Square_B: In reply to your own response to Viking, must say I'm not sure there's any point in posting anything useful here. Both yourself and the Baron lad from Mayo continue to ignore relevant information about the amount of football played in Kilkenny compared to the amount of hurling played in several other counties." How many league fixtures did Kilkenny seniors play in 2025? I think you know the answer to that. How exactly can the standard of football improve when they don't bother putting any resources into entering a team in the League & Championship? I've said, take their funding away until they focus resources on entering a team in the League & Championship proper."
Football isn't like hurling that way, it's not like there are 6 or 8 counties who are really poor at Football. If there were then I'd agree with you 100%.
Of the teams that played in div 4 this year there's only a couple that haven't been at least in div2 this millennium, and we were even in a Division 1 Final in that time.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15267 - 02/04/2025 14:03:59
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