Replying To Blackspot09:  "Good to hear. Also he is going in as a selector so coaching is not essential for him . Hopefully he will learn off whoever COR is bringing in as his coaching team as well."

Replying To Blackspot09:  "He has no right to know who got it ahead of him and the CB or any employer are not obliged to tell him or any unsuccessful candidate who got it ahead of them. It would be very uncommon for an unsuccessful candidate to be informed in the phone call who got it ahead of them.

Anyway if you look at the numerous articles that were published yesterday by national newspapers and media sites where they all say BF found out on twitter that he did not get the job (which is not true) BF got exactly what he wanted when he posted that tweet. As one journalist said yesterday about his tweet the choice of language was "liberal" . In other words he worded it so that people would think he found out on the twitter that he didn't get the job.

And if you look at the comments on these articles about how the Meath CB are a disgrace and are unprofessional and how that is no way to treat anyone or no way to find out it's mission accomplished for BF.

For a man who claims to purely have Meath footballs best interests at heart he was more than happy to stir the s##t with a totally misleading tweet."

Replying To Blackspot09:  "He has no right to know who got it ahead of him and the CB or any employer are not obliged to tell him or any unsuccessful candidate who got it ahead of them. It would be very uncommon for an unsuccessful candidate to be informed in the phone call who got it ahead of them.

Anyway if you look at the numerous articles that were published yesterday by national newspapers and media sites where they all say BF found out on twitter that he did not get the job (which is not true) BF got exactly what he wanted when he posted that tweet. As one journalist said yesterday about his tweet the choice of language was "liberal" . In other words he worded it so that people would think he found out on the twitter that he didn't get the job.

And if you look at the comments on these articles about how the Meath CB are a disgrace and are unprofessional and how that is no way to treat anyone or no way to find out it's mission accomplished for BF.

For a man who claims to purely have Meath footballs best interests at heart he was more than happy to stir the s##t with a totally misleading tweet."

Replying To nobull456:  "I think it is a smart move to bring Stephen Bray on board. We all know how inteligent Stephen was as a forward especially his anticipation , and how he saw how open spaces can be used to facilitate direct attacking football. Stephen i expect will have a key role as forwards coach as well as selector. Quick delivery to the forwards will be the style. Fielding ,freetaking etc of course will be given the required attention no doubt. I dont expect miracles overnight, but this new begining will see a continuous improvement culture where everybody is accountable. and where leadership is visible when required . I'll settle for that ! Colm has a can do and winning attitude .I dont expect half measure approach to anything. As a poster who has been critical of the top table i applaud them in this case in the selection process. I applaud them also in how they handled the required communication to the applicants in a proffesional manner."

Replying To thelutch:  "Only way is up for COR and the team, don't think we can go any lower than we have this season.

However the question is , How high can he go ?

Time will tell of course but I cannot see a three season fix, this will take longer.

Only seeing senior standard on a regular basis since last year in the county and I would not be getting too excited with the standard we have, in fact , in my opinion Cían Ward is still probably the best forward in the county and he is retired a good few years now.

Nothing against any of the lads we have, I respect all the lads who wear the Meath Jersey but we are not even close to a top ten team yet unless COR can make these lads better players.

As I said on a previous post on some forum, our goalkeeper was our second highest scorer in league and championship combined this year.

That is a terrible worry and a huge challenge for the coaching team."

Replying To latouche25:  "I have read his tweet he clearly states that he found out in social media that Colm got the job. He does not state that he found out on social media that he wasn't getting it. The reality is that he was never going to get it after the 20's fiasco. This is not a job so comparing it to an interview for a paid position is nonsense. Bernard is just making noise and we need to move on. Maybe in 3 years time we might be back here discussing his application but hopefully we will be discussing Meath winning Sam. Wishful thinking I know but we will persevere."

Replying To latouche25:  "If these are the desired traits that are required then Trevor Jiles was the master and a good friend of Colm's . I thought he would be part of the set up."

Replying To royaldunne:  "First off. Promotion should ALWAYS be the objective. It is the only way we will progress. We WILL NOT WIN a Leinster unless we are playing against the best teams in division one, and my comments on national forum were specifically related to CHAMPIONSHIP, I mean even in ur summarising you can't say I said anything about league on national forum. Cause I didn't. So no contradiction there. I don't know how you could say there is. Yes I firmly believe that Colm and the team will target promotion next year and to say otherwise is doing the man a huge disservice. As on any programs he always says that if you want to progress you need to be in division one football, why would he change that now ??? Id love to know why you think he'd be happy with midtable div 2 or worse ?? Many of the players he will have already have division one experience as well as super 8s.
It seems like it's a case of getting the excuses in early by those who berated Andy. I'll say the same as I did last year. Promotion is a Must. Leinster and all ire are beyond us for next 3/5 years. Hopefully that clears up my position and sorry if I confused you. It wasn't my intention"

Replying To FoolsGold:  "Rochford is in the backroom team for the Mayo job with McStay https://t.co/xODOpzrrP8

He wasn't part of Flynns ticket. Why was he naming him?"

Replying To Proudroyal:  "Well Royaldunne,as you say you didn't mention the national league on the main forum but you didn't say it was just championship either,so that's were wires were crossed.You have said on the main forum that he needs time and on the Meath forum promotion in 1st year is a must,so that's were I'm getting contrasting views from.Im sure Colm is targeting promotion as you say and rightly so.i also dont know where you get me saying it's alright for us to mid table or worse in 2nd division.All I said is we finished 4/5 in the league last year and then were beaten by Clare (who finished below us in the league) in the championship and we could have easily been beaten by 10 or more points.I want and think we can get to division 1 but it may take sometime.You also say I'm getting excuses in early for Colm?again dont know know where you get that from?I'm just pointiing out where we are at the minute.If Andy mac,Bernard flynn or even Sean boylan(any manager)took over now I'd say the same ,by all means go for promotion most definitely but we have to be realistic and know it may take sometime.As I said in my previous post I am not taking at pop at you was just wondering why (it seems to me)your views were different but you have cleared that up by saying its Championship not league you're taking about.I do see your point that to do well in championship we have to do well in league (hence promotion is key,although Galway were division 2 won Connacht and got to All Ireland final and Derry division 2 won Ulster and got to semi final so it's not impossible to do things from division 2."

Replying To FoolsGold:  "Rochford is in the backroom team for the Mayo job with McStay https://t.co/xODOpzrrP8

He wasn't part of Flynns ticket. Why was he naming him?"

Replying To royaldunne:  "I honestly think promotion would do us wonders. It did for Kildare. If it's not achieved. I won't be on cor as it will be his first year, and we will hopefully get to quarters in all ire. That must be next goal. Tbh we are imo 4th in Leinster behind dubs , Kildare and Westmeath (the last two kills me to write it and admit to it) but facts are facts, come league championship the fan will break out in me and no one or anything will convince me that we won't beat any team. But for now it's a cold hard look I suppose. I'll give Andy one thing , the gk problem is sorted, and cor would be mad to mess with it. But the problem we have is we don't have one marquee forward, the 3 teams I mentioned have, Dublin have rock, con, and Kilkenny, Kildare have Flynn , Westmeath have heslin. We don't unfortunately have one that could come near them. That's a huge worry. And as was said by someone previously cian ward last year was by far the best forward in Meath. So that has to be number 1 issue for Colm"

Replying To brian:  "RD I'm sorry but you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.

You were telling us all that before the Dublin game this summer, Meath were a match for them and you wouldn't listen to a word of realism that several posters myself included were trying to say. I'm pretty sure you were telling us and apologies if I'm wrong that people not believing we'd win shouldn't be going to matches. There's being realistic and being romantic... I'll always travel in your words "believing we'll win" but i'm realistic enough to see that we're barely a top 16 team right now and beating Dublin is a fantasy.

You're telling us we need to get promotion in year one, but your also telling us we don't have the players. Andy himself said division one football did us no good as they panel wasn't ready and didn't have the depth, that losing becomes a habit, and we're in a worse position now than we were in 2019/2020.

Your saying we need to get the 1/4 finals of the championship next year (BTW i believe its a super 8's so there is no quarters) but we're the fourth best team in Leinster .... and Leinster is easily the weakest province in football. How does that work...

Can you not see how people can get thoroughly frustrated with you?

I admire your passion and commitment but would ask you to temper your expectations a little.

I think all of us including yourself want the same thing, to see the county back at the level we all believe it should be at, which is a perennial contender. But there's a job of work required to get there. I appreciate what Andy did in his 6 year but if we're all honest he left us in as bad a spot if not worse than when he picked us up in. Our fitness which he improved to 2019 tailed off so badly it was frightening, our S&C has gone in the wrong direction and these lads don't seem to be in football shape, more athletic shape and when a game gets physical they're not up to it, our game plans or lack there of have held the team back that they're almost afraid to take action and responsibility.

2023 is going to be all about Colm, Barry and Stephen bringing the team together, fixing all of those elements, getting the team fitter faster and stronger, establishing an identity and game plan and players who will fit within what they need. Unfortunately and none of us want to hear it but that could take 3-5 years alone. It took Andy 3 years to get the team up to division 2 fitness levels and they regressed from there and there's another huge step up to division 1 or consistent top 6-8 levels. There's many on the current panel who won't see that day.

Suggesting promotion with those factors and 2 provincial winners in the division already is putting a burden on the team this year that isn't needed. I think as you say getting to the 1/4 finals or super 8's could be a good thing but it could also be a bad thing as the squad has several players with what would appear to be quite fragile ego's (for want of another word) right now. As Andy said losing can become a habit and a lot of these players have never won a big championship game and Colm might need to get in a Caroline Currid/ Niamh Fitzpatrick or Justin McNulty type just to help with the mental side of the game, as the players are carrying so many scars.

I think and believe you would be realistic enough to see that what we all want could take a few years, same as it did for Andy. If we see signs of progress in years 1-3 then I will be happy, but after that we need to build and maintain on that. That's where unfortunately things broke for Andy and I would hope for Colm or if someone replaces him after 3 years that they are taking on a team on the rise being supplemented by the 2020 and 2021 minors.
I think Colm is honest enough to know where we're at and that in his interview he's talking about getting closer to Dublin over time, he's not expecting that we'll be competive from day one as he'll have to build up to it. Unfortunately for Andy he took some hammerings from Dublin and the in closest match Dublin barely kicked a ball in the second half out of boredom and when the heat came on they burned us off and owned the ball. If Colm can help to at least get us competitve again and not getting mauled by Dublin every year that's progress. Beating teams of a higher standard will be progress and the Meath team developing and improving is progress.

Colm might never see the bright and sunny days in Croke park as manager and i think he knows that himself, but if he can leave a legacy of improvement i think we'd all be happy for someone coming after him to drive things on and push the team towards that dream of being a perennial contender again.

Putting undue expectations on the team will do nothing for them, allow the management team the time to develop and build the team and squad and if there are signs of progress thats all we can ask for."

Replying To Proudroyal:  "In fairness Brian, I wouldn't knock anyone for believing they can win any game.Ive played football all my life(still trying)and never went out thinking we wont win.Every player should go out believing they can win otherwise what's the point.Dont get me wrong I've got a few hidings in my time but also won games we probably shouldn't have won because we raised our game and believed.That was a trait under Boylan never give up or stop believing.In Jim McGuinness book he says getting the (Donegal)players to believe in themselves was one of the most important things he done.You ate right it might not be a bad thing to get somone to look at the mental side of things as the beatings would leave scars.I also think you're right about it taking 3 to 5 years to see the best of the team under Colm and if we can see progress every year then that would be good.its hard not to get a bit excited ge is probably the best Meath man for the job and that seems to be an issue with some (outside manager)so at least we have him in and everyone should get behind him.I also believe Colm will be good with the young lads as he knows how to deal with them as he has been doing that all his life with his job.That is the longterm goal nurture the young lads coming through and install belief,character and gameplans into them.We may not see success until after Colm is gone (HOPEFULLY not)but this is a crucial time in Meath football.Lets hope the county board give Colm what they promised and we can get nearer to the top teams sooner rather than later."

Replying To Royalroller:  "He probably was and then when he heard COR had the job and made himself available, like if McStay isn't successful, we could still and up with Rochford or Buckley!"