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to give these competitions and players the respect they deserve these Prem Finals need to be played in Pirc Tailteann minimum Prem 1-4 it would also be great to see how the Prem divisions are performing Vs Intermediate & Junior A, that the last game of the year for the Intermediate winners to play Prem 1 and Jun A winners tp play Prem 2 winners ABD09 (Meath) - Posts: 68 - 28/09/2021 11:54:42 2383299 Link
In agreement, The Premier is most definitely failing as a competition... V little interest in it. Compounded by the fact that there's 8 or 9 games, before a semifinal makes the whole thing seem dragged out. .. I do think finals will be in PT. On another note I still think some clubs have kept players back for their 3rd team when they should be playing on a second team. This is just from the football I'V seen of late of a few clubs. A move back to old format Junior B- Junior D although maybe not the solution, a far better alternative to the current situation. I don't think a smaller junior club would care if paying an even game against a towns 3rd team, or a fellow small junior club up the road too much. Jimmycricket (Meath) - Posts: 115 - 28/09/2021 12:51:51 2383315 Link
Replying To ABD09: "to give these competitions and players the respect they deserve these Prem Finals need to be played in Pirc Tailteann minimum Prem 1-4 it would also be great to see how the Prem divisions are performing Vs Intermediate & Junior A, that the last game of the year for the Intermediate winners to play Prem 1 and Jun A winners tp play Prem 2 winners" Intermediate winners would beat prem 1 winners by 15+ Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 28/09/2021 13:05:17 2383320 Link
Replying To johnsee: "That's a bit of a daft statement now. First of all nobody is saying that competition is to allow players to play multiple grades. Secondly you are basically saying a manager shouldn't put on a sub for a few minutes to try and win a game even if he's not a regular on first team. Then you are suggesting a club should say to maybe a dozen players or so sorry lads with keeping subs for playing on first team only we won't have enough to put in a reserve team. Simple answer is like the old B league system name 15 then after first round of first team competition the 15 that start becomes the new list everyone else after that should be allowed move up and down. You have to remember this is a reserve competition everyone is in the same boat not like the old junior championship. And anyway with clubs two teams playing same weekend the top 3 or 4 subs probably won't be available for reserve team." Completely agree with this, I don't see how they can't just have it as the first 15 to start the championship and an subs can move up or down, if they had this for the Junior when it had second teams, it would have stopped all the second teams getting weaker as the year went on and there would have been no argument from junior clubs that it was much harder to play a second team in the first round compared to the last round and no change of format would have been need. this is blatantly obvious in my eyes. On another note, it only says it in the rules that you have to name players for the premier division. our club got onto the county board about this and they said it was the first 15 that played in the championship and then when we pointed out that this was not said in the rules, they said they didn't know so i'm still left with no idea what the actual rules are. de_man (Meath) - Posts: 192 - 28/09/2021 14:50:16 2383355 Link
Can someone clarify for me is it the bottom 2 in each Premier Division that goes down or are there relegation semi finals? It seems pointless enough to have relegation semis in an 8 team division as bottom 2 at end of 7 games surely deserve to be dropped and with all the walkovers in the latter rounds it seems to be just a pointless dragging out of the season. There are no Premier relegation semis in this round of football fixtures so I have a feeling I am wrong about there being any at all happydude (Meath) - Posts: 234 - 08/10/2021 14:18:07 2384917 Link
Replying To happydude: "Can someone clarify for me is it the bottom 2 in each Premier Division that goes down or are there relegation semi finals? It seems pointless enough to have relegation semis in an 8 team division as bottom 2 at end of 7 games surely deserve to be dropped and with all the walkovers in the latter rounds it seems to be just a pointless dragging out of the season. There are no Premier relegation semis in this round of football fixtures so I have a feeling I am wrong about there being any at all" Yes, as per the rules the bottom 4 go into a relegation playoff but i agree that it is completely pointless put the bottom 4 into this. I'd imagine that there isn't any playoff in some due to teams conceding to many game and being automatically relegated but that is just an assumption de_man (Meath) - Posts: 192 - 08/10/2021 15:18:22 2384930 Link
Replying To de_man: "Yes, as per the rules the bottom 4 go into a relegation playoff but i agree that it is completely pointless put the bottom 4 into this. I'd imagine that there isn't any playoff in some due to teams conceding to many game and being automatically relegated but that is just an assumption" Div1 bottom 4 as follows Kells , Donash , seneschalstown, And skryne ,, donash beat seneschalstown in a relegation playoff last night, my question Is are skryne and seneschalstown relegated now royler (Meath) - Posts: 278 - 08/10/2021 16:06:02 2384936 Link
In all divisions except Div 8 the bottom 4 teams will enter Relegation SemiFinals, with bottom team vs 4th from bottom in one semifinal, and the other 2 teams in the second semi-final. Theheinoking (Meath) - Posts: 128 - 08/10/2021 16:11:50 2384937 Link
Replying To de_man: "Yes, as per the rules the bottom 4 go into a relegation playoff but i agree that it is completely pointless put the bottom 4 into this. I'd imagine that there isn't any playoff in some due to teams conceding to many game and being automatically relegated but that is just an assumption" Your right silly plan bottom team should just be relegated last year was different as divisions where Split into 2 only of 4 teams So it was right to have relegation finals. Most these relegation games will be conceded Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 09/10/2021 07:25:30 2384973 Link
Replying To de_man: "Yes, as per the rules the bottom 4 go into a relegation playoff but i agree that it is completely pointless put the bottom 4 into this. I'd imagine that there isn't any playoff in some due to teams conceding to many game and being automatically relegated but that is just an assumption" In div 1 bottom 4 are kells donash seneschalstown And skryne, donash beat seneschalstown in a relegation playoff,as far as I know kells were not involved in a playoff, , question is are skryne and seneschalstown now relegated or is there another playoff to decide who goes down , royler (Meath) - Posts: 278 - 09/10/2021 09:49:37 2384977 Link
The 10 team divisions down in Premier 7 and 8 need to be looked at for future seasons. Who thought that was a good idea? The typical response to this is "10 teams is great stuff, more games for everyone" but anyone who says that clearly doesn't know what junior football is. In reality teams will probably get about 6 games and then give or receive a few walkovers. Now clubs entering a team and then being unable to field is a fact of life in junior, but lumping them all in together turns the whole thing into a massive slog because every phantom team entered into the competition requires an additional round to be added. The Premier 7 and 8 started on the 3rd of July but won't get finished till late November! Looking at the results, due to walkovers Ratoath's 4th team didn't play their first game until the 11th of September- 6 rounds into the competition. Something has to change there. What would have been wrong with having Premier 7 & 8 as 6 teams each, and adding a Premier 9 with the remaining 8 teams? CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 09/10/2021 12:37:37 2384997 Link
Replying To royler: "In div 1 bottom 4 are kells donash seneschalstown And skryne, donash beat seneschalstown in a relegation playoff,as far as I know kells were not involved in a playoff, , question is are skryne and seneschalstown now relegated or is there another playoff to decide who goes down ," Yes, There will be a relegation final as only 1 team goes down as far as i'm aware de_man (Meath) - Posts: 192 - 11/10/2021 10:18:08 2385194 Link
Replying To de_man: "Yes, There will be a relegation final as only 1 team goes down as far as i'm aware" Thanks for that de-man I see kells beat skryne yesterday in a relegation playoff so it's either skryne or seneschalstown who go down royler (Meath) - Posts: 278 - 11/10/2021 13:02:38 2385230 Link
Replying To de_man: "Yes, There will be a relegation final as only 1 team goes down as far as i'm aware" one up one down glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1116 - 11/10/2021 20:15:09 2385289 Link
Where does the jnr teams relegated this year go next year.?? Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 14/10/2021 20:30:50 2385692 Link
Replying To Borderroyal: "Where does the jnr teams relegated this year go next year.??" Cant see anything on it but I think the 4 teams go to Junior B along with the 4 first teams that played in this years Premier with another few relegated next year to bring that up to 10/12 teams glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1116 - 15/10/2021 11:14:17 2385727 Link
Replying To glenny: "Cant see anything on it but I think the 4 teams go to Junior B along with the 4 first teams that played in this years Premier with another few relegated next year to bring that up to 10/12 teams" No it can't be with the Premier teams they would get destroyed I think it's going to be made up of St Mary's, St Paul's, drumcondrath and clonard etc. The teams in premier 1 and 2 could beat most junior teams CMAN1570 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 15/10/2021 12:51:18 2385747 Link
Replying To CMAN1570: "No it can't be with the Premier teams they would get destroyed I think it's going to be made up of St Mary's, St Paul's, drumcondrath and clonard etc. The teams in premier 1 and 2 could beat most junior teams" How is this progression? So cortown kilwood brigids go ibto jnr b with marys conrath and stpauls who wanted to go down. Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 15/10/2021 18:12:39 2385781 Link
According to the Competition Information on the Meath GAA site, the 3 teams relegated from the 2021 IFC plus the 7 quarter finalists from the 2021 JFC will form a 10 team JFC in 2022. The remaining 8 first teams (currently spread around the JFC, Premier 3 and Premier 4) will form the Junior B FC. Presumably the JFC will then get bumped up to 12 teams in 2023 with 3 more teams relegated from the 2022 IFC. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 15/10/2021 20:32:46 2385787 Link
Replying To CastleBravo: "According to the Competition Information on the Meath GAA site, the 3 teams relegated from the 2021 IFC plus the 7 quarter finalists from the 2021 JFC will form a 10 team JFC in 2022. The remaining 8 first teams (currently spread around the JFC, Premier 3 and Premier 4) will form the Junior B FC. Presumably the JFC will then get bumped up to 12 teams in 2023 with 3 more teams relegated from the 2022 IFC." Will there be promotion from jnr next year Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 16/10/2021 15:52:18 2385834 Link