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Senior
Castlerahan v Ballyhaise...Castlerahan by 1
Killygarry v Ramor...Killygarry by 2
Crosserlough v Ballinagh...Crosserlough by 5
Gowna v Cavan Gaels...Gowna by 1
Mullahoran v Kingscourt...Kingscourt by 3
Laragh v Lavey...Lavey by 2
Intermediate
Killeshandra v Shannon Gaels...Shannon Gaels by 8
Kildallan v Mountnugent...Kildallan by 2
Drung v Redhills... Redhills by 2
Munterconnaught v Drumalee...Drumalee by 2
Swanlinbar v Knockbride...Knockbride by 15
Belturbet v Kill... Belturbet by 3
97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 378 - 29/08/2024 11:13:10
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Exciting game last night albeit riddled with errors. Breffni is a fabulous setting on an evening like yesterday. Castlerahan kicked alot away, with Oisin Kiernan surprisingly the biggest culprit, although he did make a brilliant catch near the end. I thought Ballyhaise were the better team over the hour and earned their bit of luck. They will need to tighten up at the back going forward.
Very interesting draw. 3 huge games this weekend now. If Mullahoran were to beat Kingscourt they will move to 4. Ballinagh will be favourites to beat Lavey which would see them move to 4. Castlerahan will be favourites to beat Laragh which would put them on 4. Ballyhaise are already on 4. Some of the so called big six, as per the bookies, are going to be in bother.
Pity they have the Gowna and Ramor games are overlapping tomorrow. Would have liked to have gone to both
97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 378 - 30/08/2024 14:03:13
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Replying To 97Cavans: "Exciting game last night albeit riddled with errors. Breffni is a fabulous setting on an evening like yesterday. Castlerahan kicked alot away, with Oisin Kiernan surprisingly the biggest culprit, although he did make a brilliant catch near the end. I thought Ballyhaise were the better team over the hour and earned their bit of luck. They will need to tighten up at the back going forward.
Very interesting draw. 3 huge games this weekend now. If Mullahoran were to beat Kingscourt they will move to 4. Ballinagh will be favourites to beat Lavey which would see them move to 4. Castlerahan will be favourites to beat Laragh which would put them on 4. Ballyhaise are already on 4. Some of the so called big six, as per the bookies, are going to be in bother.
Pity they have the Gowna and Ramor games are overlapping tomorrow. Would have liked to have gone to both" Mullahoran on 3 points, so a win takes them to 5
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 30/08/2024 15:49:06
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Replying To 97Cavans: "Exciting game last night albeit riddled with errors. Breffni is a fabulous setting on an evening like yesterday. Castlerahan kicked alot away, with Oisin Kiernan surprisingly the biggest culprit, although he did make a brilliant catch near the end. I thought Ballyhaise were the better team over the hour and earned their bit of luck. They will need to tighten up at the back going forward.
Very interesting draw. 3 huge games this weekend now. If Mullahoran were to beat Kingscourt they will move to 4. Ballinagh will be favourites to beat Lavey which would see them move to 4. Castlerahan will be favourites to beat Laragh which would put them on 4. Ballyhaise are already on 4. Some of the so called big six, as per the bookies, are going to be in bother.
Pity they have the Gowna and Ramor games are overlapping tomorrow. Would have liked to have gone to both" Yes Ballyhaise on a nice little run… They got lucky with the winning goal as the ball should have been passed to the eventual scorer instead of taking on the shot… Castlerahan got a couple of good goals as well in a good contest…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3057 - 30/08/2024 16:26:46
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Drung are out of the junior championship having lost only one game. The open draw system lacks fairness where teams on equal points are ranked on score difference. Teams who play a particularly weak team can achieve a massive score difference. There should be playoffs rather than deciding places on score difference.
ironside (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 01/09/2024 10:05:49
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Replying To ironside: "Drung are out of the junior championship having lost only one game. The open draw system lacks fairness where teams on equal points are ranked on score difference. Teams who play a particularly weak team can achieve a massive score difference. There should be playoffs rather than deciding places on score difference." Drung are out of the championship having only won 1 game....
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1720 - 01/09/2024 16:37:29
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Replying To ironside: "Drung are out of the junior championship having lost only one game. The open draw system lacks fairness where teams on equal points are ranked on score difference. Teams who play a particularly weak team can achieve a massive score difference. There should be playoffs rather than deciding places on score difference." Positions 3,4,5,6 all ended with 5 points, should there be a few weeks of playoffs to decide where they rank also? The bottom 2 finished level on 0 points, would there be an appetite for those to play off to see who is the worst?
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1720 - 01/09/2024 16:42:11
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Replying To ironside: "Drung are out of the junior championship having lost only one game. The open draw system lacks fairness where teams on equal points are ranked on score difference. Teams who play a particularly weak team can achieve a massive score difference. There should be playoffs rather than deciding places on score difference." Happened last year and it was a disaster. They didn't win enough games, too many draws, simple as.
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 01/09/2024 16:59:41
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Mullahoran win too after a very tough draw so far. Going very well with a lot of youth and good experience. Have to be in the talking now
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 01/09/2024 17:00:31
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That didnt happen to Drung,Belturbet beat Drumalee and Kill and Munterconnught beat Redhills and Drung so neither off the teams that Drung lost out to played any of the bottom three. If you only win 1 out of 4 games you cant really complain about anything.
Cavanstar (Cavan) - Posts: 2 - 01/09/2024 17:02:02
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A good weekend of football this weekend on the senior front. A tight encounter between Castlerahan and Ballyhaise to start us off and two tight but different games on Saturday night. And topped off by a fantastic performance by Mullahoran this afternoon. The results and the final round draw leave things very interesting going into the final round.
Crosserlough v Mullahoran
Mullahoran are moving rightly and overcoming the loss of Gavin the Gunner and Ray Lynch this weekend was a massive sign of heart in that team. Their youth also adds to their energy and team depth. But, I think Crosserlough will prove too much for them. They have only scored 9 and 11 scores in their last two games, and I do wonder where they will find the scores against Crosserlough as they are tight at the back. Crosserlough by 6.
Ballyhaise v Kingscourt
This is going to be a really tight game and will be a great test of character for Kingscourt. We all know that Kingscourt teams have always shown good character. It will be interesting to see if they can do it with the pressure on this year. Such a bright start to the championship but backs against the wall now. Ballyhaise were excellent in the 1st half against Gowna but I thought they were very shaky in the 2nd half and showed signs of weakness in their defence against Castlerahan. Do they have anyone to look after Morris? Faulkner going off injured looked in a bad way, will he feature. Assuming Faulkner does feature I am going to say Kingscourt by 2. But, no Faulkner I'm going to back Ballyhaise by 2.
Killygarry v Gowna
Gowna are used to being in this sticky situation, needing a win on the final day. Killygarry need to shore up the defence, and some might say their attack wasn't outstanding against Ramor despite the four goals. Unlike ramor to defend so poorly. Gowna may have too much going forward for Killygarry to deal with, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did turn the county champions over if they continue to leak goals like they did v Ballyhaise, Kingscourt and Ramor in the league final. If Killygarry can put a few past Gowna they will be in the driving seat. Draw game.
Ramor v Cavan Gaels
Ramor looked to be motoring well in attack against Killygarry having struggled so much in the first two games. Liam Brady is also a massive loss for the league winners. It showed at times against Killygarry. But, Enda Maguire back on the field and James Brady performing so well are positive shifts for the Virginia men. Gaels should have taken two points off Gowna and will now be without the two Shehus I assume after their red cards. Two big losses. Ramor by 4.
Castlerahan v Laragh
Laragh have been really poor this championship. Castlerahan showing their experience while mixing in some youth. I have been impressed with Castlerahan and I expect them to Bounce Back after the disappointment of this weekend. Castlerahan by 4.
Lavey v Ballinagh
Great win for Lavey tonight, but I would expect that to be the highlight of their group stage. Ballinagh have experience particularly in the forwards that I can't see Lavey dealing with. Ballinagh by 7.
patman92 (Cavan) - Posts: 71 - 01/09/2024 19:22:33
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Replying To wishfulthinkin: "Drung are out of the championship having only won 1 game...." Yes but in all fairness they were desperately unlucky. Having been drawn against the red hot favourites then the 2nd favourites the league finalists and league semi finalists. They drew with Knockbride (no one will come close to matching Drungs success against them). They beat Belturbet and drew with Redhills. You'd think that should have been enough to make the quarters. It's the luck of the draw and unfortunately for them it wasn't with them this year notwithstanding their brilliant displays against all three teams mentioned above.
Cavan43 (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 01/09/2024 22:16:00
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Replying To Loughduff Lad: "Happened last year and it was a disaster. They didn't win enough games, too many draws, simple as." Drung's form was very mixed due to an over reliance on 6/7 players over forty with about 10 young subs on the bench who were never considered even with aul lads limping around the field, so I would'nt pretend that their lack of wins was purely bad luck. However, I would still argue that when teams finish level on points, a play-off is a better option especially in the junior championship. A few smaller clubs lost a number of players this year and were at the end of hammerings which distorted the points difference.
ironside (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 02/09/2024 09:02:22
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Replying To Cavan43: "Yes but in all fairness they were desperately unlucky. Having been drawn against the red hot favourites then the 2nd favourites the league finalists and league semi finalists. They drew with Knockbride (no one will come close to matching Drungs success against them). They beat Belturbet and drew with Redhills. You'd think that should have been enough to make the quarters. It's the luck of the draw and unfortunately for them it wasn't with them this year notwithstanding their brilliant displays against all three teams mentioned above." What's the point? it's only relevant if you ignore the fact the Knockbride took off 1/3rd of their team and let them back in for a draw. Knockbride clearly learnt their lesson and blew every other team away since. So the knowbride late draw is not a benchmark for Drung.
They're unlucky alright, but junior has been very competitive this year with an unusual number of draws across the ties which presumably is a result of Corlough & Maghera not being in it. Every team therefor was less likely to get a run of "soft games" and qualify with a high score difference.
Top 8 teams earnt their right to the knockout stages, Drung just didn't.
offtheditch (Cavan) - Posts: 163 - 02/09/2024 09:07:38
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Replying To ironside: "Drung's form was very mixed due to an over reliance on 6/7 players over forty with about 10 young subs on the bench who were never considered even with aul lads limping around the field, so I would'nt pretend that their lack of wins was purely bad luck. However, I would still argue that when teams finish level on points, a play-off is a better option especially in the junior championship. A few smaller clubs lost a number of players this year and were at the end of hammerings which distorted the points difference." The rule for teams on equal points if not on score difference is a "head to Head" which they would also have lost out on as the Munchies bet them who edged them out.
offtheditch (Cavan) - Posts: 163 - 02/09/2024 09:09:48
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Replying To offtheditch: "What's the point? it's only relevant if you ignore the fact the Knockbride took off 1/3rd of their team and let them back in for a draw. Knockbride clearly learnt their lesson and blew every other team away since. So the knowbride late draw is not a benchmark for Drung.
They're unlucky alright, but junior has been very competitive this year with an unusual number of draws across the ties which presumably is a result of Corlough & Maghera not being in it. Every team therefor was less likely to get a run of "soft games" and qualify with a high score difference.
Top 8 teams earnt their right to the knockout stages, Drung just didn't." Your last comment is flawed. My point is that it's the luck of the draw. Take Kill for example who played 3 of the lowest ranked teams and qualified. Drung on the other hand played the top 3 ranked teams and lost out on score difference. That's my point. The open draw does not work. I'm pretty certain that of all the 8 teams that qualified, Drung have beatean the majority througout the year and drew with Knockbride. Had they have the luck of the draw they definitely would have qualified. The reality is, it won't matter what format was used this year. Knockbride will walk it. I'd say they're happy Drung are gone!
Cavan43 (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 02/09/2024 10:53:30
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Replying To offtheditch: "The rule for teams on equal points if not on score difference is a "head to Head" which they would also have lost out on as the Munchies bet them who edged them out." The rule for teams on equal points if not on score difference is a "head to Head" which they would also have lost out on as the Munchies bet them who edged them out.
offtheditch (Cavan) - Posts: 160 - 02/09/2024 09:09:48 256795
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It's there own fault for winning one game out of four they may feel they got a harder draw than other teams but thats the way the teams came out of the hat so tough luck. They didn't score for a whole half of footabll against Munterconnaught with a gael force wind behind them probably the only team in the county to go a half of football without scoring this year.
I would say they were unlucky enough on Saturday
RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 878 - 02/09/2024 11:48:47
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Replying To RHF: "The rule for teams on equal points if not on score difference is a "head to Head" which they would also have lost out on as the Munchies bet them who edged them out.
offtheditch (Cavan) - Posts: 160 - 02/09/2024 09:09:48 256795
Also level with Belturbet who they beat so it would have went to a play-off if the rule hadn't been changed this year.
It's there own fault for winning one game out of four they may feel they got a harder draw than other teams but thats the way the teams came out of the hat so tough luck. They didn't score for a whole half of footabll against Munterconnaught with a gael force wind behind them probably the only team in the county to go a half of football without scoring this year.
I would say they were unlucky enough on Saturday" True enough, and still didn't bring on a forwards sub despite not scoring!
ironside (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 02/09/2024 13:40:34
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Replying To offtheditch: "What's the point? it's only relevant if you ignore the fact the Knockbride took off 1/3rd of their team and let them back in for a draw. Knockbride clearly learnt their lesson and blew every other team away since. So the knowbride late draw is not a benchmark for Drung.
They're unlucky alright, but junior has been very competitive this year with an unusual number of draws across the ties which presumably is a result of Corlough & Maghera not being in it. Every team therefor was less likely to get a run of "soft games" and qualify with a high score difference.
Top 8 teams earnt their right to the knockout stages, Drung just didn't." Was it any more competitive than last year?
Mountnugent conceded 16 or 17 goals across their past 2 games.
drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 329 - 02/09/2024 13:51:42
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Replying To drumalee11: "Was it any more competitive than last year?
Mountnugent conceded 16 or 17 goals across their past 2 games." Yes it was competitive, not necessarily a higher standard, but competitive. The table doesn't lie in the end. Usually there are 3 or 4 teams scraping the bottom, it was 2 this year the rest all took points off each other.
Clearly a division 1 team should be blowing the rest (Belturbet aside) who are all division 3 teams.
Division 3 was also competitive with nearly half the division going for a semi final place on the last day. Again it was competitive but not necessarily a higher standard.
offtheditch (Cavan) - Posts: 163 - 02/09/2024 14:52:52
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