Replying To doratheexplorer: "I seem to remember us playing stacking football and finishing as top scorers in league. Even McGleenan for a while played adventurous football till he got spooked.
I'd suggest aggressive tackling, filtering players back to clog space in front of McManus then countering at speed moving the ball as quickly as possible through foot passing if on and hands if not with two or three coming of the sholder. If no space then wing forwards pulled wide and wing half backs coming at speed while going from one side of field to other to find space. Corner forwards should come out on loop and get on end of ball and at speed to take their scores.
Speed, workrate, fitness and aggression be key." Throw in a bit of accuracy and maybe we would get some scores too!
Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 16/05/2019 20:01:40
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Replying To goonie: "It's not long that Martin Reilly played as a forward for the county,, the last game in the league against Dublin." I cannot comment as I was in Hospital. Surprised to red that however as this seemed to be barred to him and we know his ability from the 40 inwards.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 16/05/2019 20:47:12
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Head over ruling heart on this occasion I'm afraid.
Mickey's comments in the Celt about Cavan playing against Donegal this time last year at Challenge match intensity, and promising that whatever about the quality of the football, the fight will there, would give us something to be hopeful about.
But that still has to be seen to be believed as a lot of these players while they can hold their heads very high over their consistency and progress in the league, have been a let down in the c'ship in their careers.
To be honest, you probably have to go back as far as the dying embers of the 97 brigade team with Mark McKeever, Lyng and Pierson etc. giving Armagh a game with 14 men for a full team c'ship performance against a good team that we could leave the field with a bit of pride over.
That said, I would be hopeful that we can get that sort of a performance tomorrow night but I think Monaghan's slightly sharper shooters and experience and composure of getting over the line will see them win by 2 points.
Hopefully I am wrong though and all the best to the team.
Prediction: Monaghan 1-16 Cavan 1-14 (Cian Mackey with the Cavan goal - 11/1 last goalscorer with PP) (Though I expect the goal will be assisted by Padraig Faulkner having followed McManus up the field on a rare foray outside of the scoring D)
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 17/05/2019 11:32:09
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Head over ruling heart on this occasion I'm afraid.
Mickey's comments in the Celt about Cavan playing against Donegal this time last year at Challenge match intensity, and promising that whatever about the quality of the football, the fight will there, would give us something to be hopeful about.
But that still has to be seen to be believed as a lot of these players while they can hold their heads very high over their consistency and progress in the league, have been a let down in the c'ship in their careers.
To be honest, you probably have to go back as far as the dying embers of the 97 brigade team with Mark McKeever, Lyng and Pierson etc. giving Armagh a game with 14 men for a full team c'ship performance against a good team that we could leave the field with a bit of pride over.
That said, I would be hopeful that we can get that sort of a performance tomorrow night but I think Monaghan's slightly sharper shooters and experience and composure of getting over the line will see them win by 2 points.
Hopefully I am wrong though and all the best to the team.
Prediction: Monaghan 1-16 Cavan 1-14 (Cian Mackey with the Cavan goal - 11/1 last goalscorer with PP) (Though I expect the goal will be assisted by Padraig Faulkner having followed McManus up the field on a rare foray outside of the scoring D)" Good post. I agree with you entirely, Cavan have been a let down in championship football in recent years. Last year was abysmal, trounced by Donegal and then scraping by Down in what was the worst game I've ever seen.
I desperately want us to beat Monaghan, I just have serious doubts about the mental fragility of our lads in tight games. They need to believe in themselves and stop bottling commanding leads like they have done time and time again.
Monaghan by two, I sincerely hope I am wrong.
Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 17/05/2019 11:47:22
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Such a pity the people of Cavan cannot get behind the county and give the team the positive push they need
Best of luck to Cavan tomorrow from your near Neighbours
MickeyLennonML (Longford) - Posts: 1 - 17/05/2019 12:26:46
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Replying To fredflint: "I think that is very bit harsh. He is one of our best players to deliver a early long ball into the forwards along with Martin Reilly. Obviously sometimes those balls can be low percentage but they are high reward. He can kick a score from distance. He is strong as a horse in the tackle and is a very committed lad and a good leader. He has excellent hands and is an option on kick outs. He lacks pace but nothing he can do about that - you either have it or you don't, sometimes this can get him exposed on a hard fast pitch so need to be careful he doesn't get isolated. I would also say he has obviously done a lot of fitness work in the winter as he was fitter this year than I ever saw him. For me when Moynagh is going well he is on the team every time." The last time we played Monaghan in the Championship Moynagh jumped out of McManus's way for the decisive goal, if he plays tomorrow I do hope he's a bit braver.
IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 306 - 17/05/2019 12:55:32
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Replying To MickeyLennonML: "Such a pity the people of Cavan cannot get behind the county and give the team the positive push they need
Best of luck to Cavan tomorrow from your near Neighbours" It's up to the team to give the supporters a reason to believe. The U21 team did it 8 years ago and consequently got a huge following. Sadly all the "future is blue" stuff hasn't materialised. If we win tomorrow the crowd will come back.
Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 17/05/2019 13:52:08
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A big day for Mickey and his team tomorrow, whatever happens result wise lets hope that we can say that the team left nothing on the pitch. Not saying we will win but we have a huge opportunity tomorrow evening. Looking forward to travelling up from North Kildare for the game.
kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 17/05/2019 14:14:35
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Team named:
Cavan (Ulster SFC v Monaghan): Raymond Galligan; Jason McLoughlin, Padraig Faulkner, Conor Moynagh; Gerard Smith, Killian Clarke, Conor Rehill; Conor Brady, Gearoid McKiernan; Martin Reilly, Dara McVeety, Niall Murray; Oisin Kiernan, Thomas Galligan, Conor Madden.
Would expect positional changes. Clarke to full back line. Moynagh out for example. Gearoid and Galligan swap another.
Looks a solid team. No Ciaran Brady but his form dipped towards the end of the League and I've heard he was struggling for fitness.
BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 17/05/2019 14:28:12
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Lots of surprises in that team named (assuming it starts) Very strong physical looking team so i expect us to do well in the middle third. Massive game for Conor Brady at midfield, surprised to see Ciaran Brady excluded. Oisin Kiernan wearing 13 but no way will he play at Corner forward, will be positional changes at the start. Wouldnt be surprised to see a curveball like Gearoid or McVeety starting off inside the ff line.
Unfortunately having seen the team named i would have to agree with the lads on the GAA hour podcast who reckon Cavan will just full short because of the full forward line. Hope im wrong but the lack of a free scoring inside forward line will cost us dear again.
Hopefully Ciaran Brady, Mackey and Caoimhin ready to come on and make an impact when game is there to be won in second half
Best of luck
Pullhard1985 (USA) - Posts: 68 - 17/05/2019 14:38:12
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Replying To BreffniGuide: "Team named:
Cavan (Ulster SFC v Monaghan): Raymond Galligan; Jason McLoughlin, Padraig Faulkner, Conor Moynagh; Gerard Smith, Killian Clarke, Conor Rehill; Conor Brady, Gearoid McKiernan; Martin Reilly, Dara McVeety, Niall Murray; Oisin Kiernan, Thomas Galligan, Conor Madden.
Would expect positional changes. Clarke to full back line. Moynagh out for example. Gearoid and Galligan swap another.
Looks a solid team. No Ciaran Brady but his form dipped towards the end of the League and I've heard he was struggling for fitness." That's one switch I don't want to see - Killian should be left at CHB! But I suspect you're right.
Don't think Oisin will stay in the corner either. He'll drop to the half forward line and Martin Reilly will drop deep.
Both McVeety and McKiernan should be thrown in to the full forward line at various points. I think that's more likely to hurt Monaghan than having Galligan and Madden isolated up there
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5200 - 17/05/2019 14:41:33
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Replying To cavanman47: "That's one switch I don't want to see - Killian should be left at CHB! But I suspect you're right.
Don't think Oisin will stay in the corner either. He'll drop to the half forward line and Martin Reilly will drop deep.
Both McVeety and McKiernan should be thrown in to the full forward line at various points. I think that's more likely to hurt Monaghan than having Galligan and Madden isolated up there" Id imagine killian will go to midfield, gaeroid into the forwards and oisin kiernan back to centre back.
Best of luck to Mickey, his backroom team and all the players we are all behind you
Breffni81 (Cavan) - Posts: 182 - 17/05/2019 15:11:39
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Replying To Pullhard1985: "Lots of surprises in that team named (assuming it starts) Very strong physical looking team so i expect us to do well in the middle third. Massive game for Conor Brady at midfield, surprised to see Ciaran Brady excluded. Oisin Kiernan wearing 13 but no way will he play at Corner forward, will be positional changes at the start. Wouldnt be surprised to see a curveball like Gearoid or McVeety starting off inside the ff line.
Unfortunately having seen the team named i would have to agree with the lads on the GAA hour podcast who reckon Cavan will just full short because of the full forward line. Hope im wrong but the lack of a free scoring inside forward line will cost us dear again.
Hopefully Ciaran Brady, Mackey and Caoimhin ready to come on and make an impact when game is there to be won in second half
Best of luck" Not sure where you are seeing lots of surprises. I named a team a week ago and there's only three changes from it. Conor Brady instead of Ciaran Brady Oisin Kiernan instead of Conroy T. Galligan instead of J. Galligan/Graham I actually only hadn't named T. Galligan because I thought he had an injury so I would have had 13 of the 15 but for that. I also don't think Ciaran Brady has been excluded - I heard he was struggling for fitness.
BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 17/05/2019 15:32:27
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Replying To BreffniGuide: "Not sure where you are seeing lots of surprises. I named a team a week ago and there's only three changes from it. Conor Brady instead of Ciaran Brady Oisin Kiernan instead of Conroy T. Galligan instead of J. Galligan/Graham I actually only hadn't named T. Galligan because I thought he had an injury so I would have had 13 of the 15 but for that. I also don't think Ciaran Brady has been excluded - I heard he was struggling for fitness." Define 'lots', 12 out of 15 suggests you were a good bit off ;-)
Yeah the more i think about it the more it seems Gearoid will be playing in forwards
Pullhard1985 (USA) - Posts: 68 - 17/05/2019 15:50:05
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Decent enough team line out for what we have I suppose.
Bit of size anyway, which bodes well if they are going to try and turn it into a battle.
It definitely lacks firepower in the forwards but I suppose you can only dance with the girls that's in the hall.
I think though that given the natural playing styles of some of the forwards, whatever way he positions the forwards, the forward line is going to lack shape and be a bit a scattered and on top of each other.
Need big games from McKiernan in the scoring dept, McVeety in the line breaking & ball winning depts., and a good spread of scores from our able half backs and half forwards to win I think. And 1 timely but effective bust from Faulkner to create a goal..
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 17/05/2019 16:31:37
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Replying To Pullhard1985: "Define 'lots', 12 out of 15 suggests you were a good bit off ;-)
Yeah the more i think about it the more it seems Gearoid will be playing in forwards" Lots means a large amount and three out of 15 is hardly a surprise. I would have went with McKiernan over Conroy but had thought he wouldn't be ready.
The only real surprise is Conor Brady over Holla but that may have been enforced.
BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 17/05/2019 17:11:13
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Was C.Reilly playing for Butlersbridge last night
goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 308 - 18/05/2019 11:50:14
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Cavan played monaghan in the league and we struggled with our frees big time , if we took out chances we would of won the game . I still dont know why moynagh is playing
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Replying To goonie: "Was C.Reilly playing for Butlersbridge last night" Yes
tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 18/05/2019 13:27:19
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Replying To cavanlawd123: "Cavan played monaghan in the league and we struggled with our frees big time , if we took out chances we would of won the game . I still dont know why moynagh is playing" In fairness to Moynagh he was one of the better players in a lot of the league games .
goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 308 - 18/05/2019 14:10:23
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