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Cavans defensive structure went after Peter Donnelly left for Tyrone at the end of 2014. They were top scorers in Division 2 in 2016. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2831 - 22/07/2017 14:20:51 2020911 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "Cavan were top scorers in Division 2 last year so it clearly was tweaked." They were top scorers in all 4 divisions. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 22/07/2017 15:27:05 2020931 Link
Replying To Sean.66: "Even God almighty could not perform in that Cavan foreward line the way the team is set up to play.....and he was a mirical worker... This Cavan team are going nowhere playing this type of football" Replying To seanorinn: "If you had god almighty himself he would not be good enough for the Cavan critics on here." Even God almighty could not perform in that Cavan foreward line the way the team is set up to play.....and he was a mirical worker... This Cavan team are going nowhere playing this type of football Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts:220 - 22/07/2017 09:48:53 2020792 Well Sean66 there will be changes from next October please god things will get better hang in there. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 22/07/2017 15:41:59 2020942 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "Replying To seanorinn: "If you had god almighty himself he would not be good enough for the Cavan critics on here." Even God almighty could not perform in that Cavan foreward line the way the team is set up to play.....and he was a mirical worker... This Cavan team are going nowhere playing this type of football Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts:220 - 22/07/2017 09:48:53 2020792 Well Sean66 there will be changes from next October please god things will get better hang in there." I hear changes have started all ready. Lets see what's the set up come October/November The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 22/07/2017 18:29:09 2021020 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Thanks for that Martin. So you're saying there's no manager capable of taking over the team and making them more attack minded? It's just as well out current manager knows how to keep the opposition from kicking 2-15 against us then. . We kicked 18 points against Tipp. Our attack wasn't the problem!" If our attack wasn't the problem what was??? We scored 18pts.. Cork scored 2-20 and still lost. Wise up. Our average in the league was 1-12. Of course the attack is the problem. Forwards are not let play. Just ask any forward who's quit the panel. And it's mostly forwards who have quit. Isn't it? Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 23/07/2017 08:31:49 2021434 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "I hear changes have started all ready. Lets see what's the set up come October/November" Yes Sean the grass will always be green!! Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 23/07/2017 08:33:53 2021437 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "If our attack wasn't the problem what was??? We scored 18pts.. Cork scored 2-20 and still lost. Wise up. Our average in the league was 1-12. Of course the attack is the problem. Forwards are not let play. Just ask any forward who's quit the panel. And it's mostly forwards who have quit. Isn't it?" Right and the players who quit, did they somehow avoid the Terry Hyland preprogramming you talked about earlier, became frustrated with their fellow players who were incapable of playing the free flowing attacking football Mattie asked them to (due to same pre programming). So these players quit. Of course what I just wrote is ridiculous but it's a summary of your main points. In fact the only constant point you make is it's all Terry's fault. However, it's funny that Argue and Jack Brady never left Terry's panel. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 23/07/2017 09:43:01 2021465 Link
Replying To fredflint: "Right and the players who quit, did they somehow avoid the Terry Hyland preprogramming you talked about earlier, became frustrated with their fellow players who were incapable of playing the free flowing attacking football Mattie asked them to (due to same pre programming). So these players quit. Of course what I just wrote is ridiculous but it's a summary of your main points. In fact the only constant point you make is it's all Terry's fault. However, it's funny that Argue and Jack Brady never left Terry's panel." But tierney, Barry Reilly ,givney , keating, Dunnie, Declan and Kevin Meehan, cullivan , packie leddy , maloney -Derham , Hessin and many more did leave while TH was in charge. And every one was asked back and wouldn't come back. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 23/07/2017 10:01:57 2021486 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "But tierney, Barry Reilly ,givney , keating, Dunnie, Declan and Kevin Meehan, cullivan , packie leddy , maloney -Derham , Hessin and many more did leave while TH was in charge. And every one was asked back and wouldn't come back." Ha ha ha! Congratulations Deano, just about the dumbest post ever put up here and that's saying something. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 23/07/2017 10:14:28 2021499 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "But tierney, Barry Reilly ,givney , keating, Dunnie, Declan and Kevin Meehan, cullivan , packie leddy , maloney -Derham , Hessin and many more did leave while TH was in charge. And every one was asked back and wouldn't come back." More half truths. Givney and Keating were asked back last yr for example, came back unless I'm a imagining things and then didn't commit this year when Terry was long gone. Barry Reilly we all know has work commitments. I don't know about others but I do recall Ray Cullivan previously leaving a panel 1 week before the ulster championship one year so maybe there are other issues there? fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 23/07/2017 10:16:36 2021504 Link
Replying To fredflint: "Right and the players who quit, did they somehow avoid the Terry Hyland preprogramming you talked about earlier, became frustrated with their fellow players who were incapable of playing the free flowing attacking football Mattie asked them to (due to same pre programming). So these players quit. Of course what I just wrote is ridiculous but it's a summary of your main points. In fact the only constant point you make is it's all Terry's fault. However, it's funny that Argue and Jack Brady never left Terry's panel." t's funny that Argue and Jack Brady never left Terry's panel. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts:831 - 23/07/2017 09:43:01 2021465 Have you asked the above why they left it might not be a bad idea. Also in the championship you might pay particular interest in one of the above and watch his attitude towards his club you will then ask yourself why he was even on the county panel. I am going to be honest here and maybe someone might pick up on it. Time to talk to players individually and see what they want or expect from their county. This might be a step in the right direction. I hope after the championship that the new management will bring in around 60 to 80 players this will include current county players and people whom you say walked. Get them for a month and each and everyone will be fighting to get on the county panel by ability and not by name or background. Time to open the door to all possibilities. We have had some wonderful players walk away from the panel prior to the new managers arrival you know this is true. I don't like the McKenna cup but no county player that is there a few years should think he is above playing in this competition. There are lot's of things that need mending and I hope a start has been made all ready. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 23/07/2017 10:18:00 2021505 Link
Replying To fredflint: "More half truths. Givney and Keating were asked back last yr for example, came back unless I'm a imagining things and then didn't commit this year when Terry was long gone. Barry Reilly we all know has work commitments. I don't know about others but I do recall Ray Cullivan previously leaving a panel 1 week before the ulster championship one year so maybe there are other issues there?" Bring back Terry and give him another 5 years. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 23/07/2017 15:25:29 2021771 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Bring back Terry and give him another 5 years." Well he's gone a year and you're still banging on about him Martin, so maybe giving him another 5 is the only way you can stay relevant! cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5200 - 23/07/2017 16:46:49 2021842 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Well he's gone a year and you're still banging on about him Martin, so maybe giving him another 5 is the only way you can stay relevant!" Terry is his main advertisement for selling broadband JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 482 - 23/07/2017 18:04:39 2021901 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "I hear changes have started all ready. Lets see what's the set up come October/November" What changes are you on about ?? or bond (Longford) - Posts: 174 - 23/07/2017 18:30:12 2021918 Link
Replying To JamsieMac: "Terry is his main advertisement for selling broadband" I think he is in love. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 23/07/2017 18:47:38 2021929 Link
Replying To bond: "What changes are you on about ?? or" Replying To seanorinn: "I hear changes have started all ready. Lets see what's the set up come October/November" What changes are you on about ?? or bond (Longford) - Posts:101 - 23/07/2017 18:30:12 2021918 E McGuire is gone The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 23/07/2017 20:45:04 2022026 Link